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    Read this if you have water in your trunk and you have checked all of the usual spots

    A few weeks ago I washed my car and shortly thereafter found a small pond in my trunk in the spot where the jack is kept. After doing a little bit of research on this and other sites, I determined that I should check a number of places that people identify as common areas that leak. Those areas are:

    -The antenna's rubber grommet

    -The tailight seals

    -The sunroof drains (specfically where the drain tube meets the vent in the trunk)

    I checked each of these areas and found them all to be fine with no water coming in from any of them. I finally submitted to the fact that my rear window seal was most likely the culprit but something just didn't make sense; the seal was soft and really didn't seem like it was capable of letting in water.

    I finally diverted my attention away from the usual suspects and to the window molding that clips onto the body behind the rear windows. I noticed that the top of it was a bit loose and could easily be pushed in and out. I removed the molding to find a completely destroyed plastic clip:



    I imagine that a combination of time and perhaps the previous owner taking the car to a mechanical car wash destroyed the clip. The broken plastic was hard and brittle. The small foam piece that forms a seal with the body was flatter than a sheet of paper; clearly neither of these pieces were doing their respective jobs.

    I ordered three new clips with the foam o-rings at the dealership in addition to a new piece of weatherstripping which is supposed to along the molding where it meets the body.



    Voila! Dry trunk? Almost.....

    It soon began to rain again and low and behold, more water in the trunk! After spending a bit more time figuring out the entry point I finally pinpointed the last place the water was leaking; the antenna itself.

    Since the antennas on these cars are prone to failure and the factory antennas are not particularly inexpensive, many people opt to take the Pep Boys route and get the generic cheapy antenna. The problem with the one used in my car was that it was just a tiny bit too small for the factory hole and water was actually coming in through the sides.

    To test my theory, I jammed a bathtub plug in the hole, and let loose a massive stream of water for a good 30 seconds. The trunk was dry as a bone. :pimp:


    In short; if you are experiencing trunk leaks but all of the usual places aren't letting water in, check the rear window moldings and see if you're antenna has been replaced with a generic model. Hope this helps some folks.

    #2
    There's also another spot that can also be the cause. I went though all of those that you listed to no avail. It ended up being my trunk vent and accompanying o-ring.

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      #3
      Lol Z3 antenna time.
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        #4
        Originally posted by glucklich21 View Post
        There's also another spot that can also be the cause. I went though all of those that you listed to no avail. It ended up being my trunk vent and accompanying o-ring.

        http://www.e30tech.com/forum/showpos...20&postcount=4
        Yes I noticed mine was a little bit soggy there as well, I will be replacing it soon. Is there any way all of this information can be consolidated with detailed photos and links? There is no place that documents all of the leak spots front to back with photos, etc.

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          #5
          Just dabbed some silcone around a leaky spot in my trunk seal for now, deleted the antenna and sealed the plug and sealed up around the vent. Only a few drops last rain storm and they are from the tail light seals which are next on the list.
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            #6
            Its also possible that those grommets/clips can let water leak into the car interior too, you'll find the water builds up under the rear seat and on the floor in the back. I've got the same problem ;)
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              #7
              I had the same thing, which is what tipped me off to examine these in the first place. Seems like a silly design.:?

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                #8
                I finally got around to ordering these:



                I got one for each side. My local dealership was going to have to order them from Germany, but actually found two of them in the US at another dealership, so they should be here sometime next week! My trunk is going to need to seriously air out next week in addition to getting some much need carpet cleaning....

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                  #9
                  Bump for more information....After replacing literally every single seal leading into the trunk short of the rear window seal (which seems good), I was still getting water in the driver's side wheel well, albeit only while the car was in motion on very, very wet roads.

                  I gave it the old garden hose test and deluged the top of the car for a solid five minutes being sure to get every nook and cranny wet. I opened the trunk and NOTHING. Not a drop. Remembering that the last time I saw water was the last time I drove on the Parkway during a nasty rainstorm, I shoved the hose in the wheel well and gave it the same five minute treatment. I opened the trunk and low and behold; water!!

                  I am going to take my car to the body shop this week to strip all of the undercoating in both wheel wells and see what the seams look like. I'm guessing there will be some mild rust most likely due to the seam sealer being dry rotted and not doing its job, thus leading to water in the trunk.

                  So, if you've tried everything like I have and you're still getting water in there, the answer might not be replacing seals...

                  I will post pictures after I strip all the old crap off.

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                    #10
                    my car came back from the bodyshop 2 months ago, and noticed a pool of water in both the jack area & underneath the battery tray. was going nuts looking for the leak. The shop removed all the glass, trim etc to paint the car, so I wasn't sure what they did wrong.

                    I replaced the 3 plastic grommets + gaskets the OP posted here (on the c-pillar trim)...and it still leaked. Realized those grommets almost have to be hammered into place, in order for it to actually seal. So i had to pick up more grommets to redo it.

                    Reassembled everything and hosed it down. I think its fixed now. What a PITA tracking that down!
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                      #11
                      Very helpful thanks for posting.;)
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                        #12
                        Bump for even more info.....if you have water in your trunk (without driving anywhere) after replacing everything in this thread do the following:

                        1. Remove all carpeting from trunk

                        2. Hose the rear of your car down.

                        3. Immediately open up the trunk and see where the stream is coming from.

                        4. If it's coming from the OUTER part of the wheel well (the outside of the pinch weld), then you goofed up re-installing the sail panel clips. Put the clips in first, then install the panel. If you do it the opposite way, you risk tearing them.

                        5. If it's coming from the INNER part of the wheel well, then you MUST REPLACE YOUR WINDOW SEAL! I was going crazy trying to figure out where the water was coming in from because my window seal looked fine. Didn't matter! It was hard and not doing it's job. If your seal is old; replace it! It's $100 and worth every penny.

                        Important note: When replacing your seal, make sure you that you install the rubber on the body THEN put the glass in. I brought my car to my body guy and he did it the opposite way and well let's just say the problem got worse. Thanks to Levent and Guten Parts, my rear window seal is on properly and hopefully my water troubles are over!

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                          #13
                          question Landrunner: when you replaced the window seal, did you use OEM gasket?

                          reason I ask: this morning on my way to work, my rear window shattered into a million pieces, but stayed in place. I went to the glass place, and had them order new glass and gasket - my insurance will pay for aftermarket parts (glass/gasket) in full, or OEM they will pay 300$ (so I would pay 200$ - the rest). Should I go for OEM?

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                            #14
                            also - 2 week wait for OEM glass/gasket from Motherland, OR 2 day wait for aftermarket schtuff

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                              #15
                              OEM for sure.

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