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  • zig553
    Advanced Member
    • Sep 2011
    • 189

    #1

    Sticky Clutch Pedal

    Recently my clutch pedal suddenly decided that it wasn't going to come back up completely all the way. It only comes up about 75-80% of the way now instead of fully coming back up. I can still use it and shift and the clutch disengages properly, its just sort of bothersome. Googling this makes it sound like the clutch slave cylinder (which I checked, It isn't leaking) or the Master cylinder but most people who have had these break on them said the clutch pedal completely hits the floor and won't come back up. So i'm not exactly sure if the problem is the cylinders or something simple, I tried wd40 on the clutch pedal where it pivots but it didn't seem to fix the issue. I am able to pull up the clutch pedal with my foot too. My car has only 230000 km on it and I know the clutch is still good and doesn't slip.
  • jrobie79
    R3VLimited
    • Mar 2006
    • 2520

    #2
    maybe try rebleeding it...just a suggestion, if you do end up replacing one cylinder, might as well replace the other
    1991 318is --- currently not road worthy
    1991 318i ---- 308K - retired

    Originally posted by RickSloan
    so if you didnt get it like that did you glue fuzzy oil to the entire thing?

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    • netcsk
      E30 Mastermind
      • Apr 2004
      • 1609

      #3
      Have you touched the clutch pedal or anything down in the area lately?
      I ask because a return spring (attached to the clutch pedal and fitted in a notch on the pedal bracket) not properly placed will cause what you are describing.

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      • bmwguy325is
        E30 Fanatic
        • May 2011
        • 1262

        #4
        This happened to me once. The pedal box assembly bracket cracked. It allowed the clutch pedal to get stuck on the dead pedal.
        Aslo yes check the return springs
        sigpic"If one does not fail at times, then one has not challenged himself." -Ferdinand Porsche
        The ugly car: http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=209713

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        • zig553
          Advanced Member
          • Sep 2011
          • 189

          #5
          I'm currently trying to find this spring and I'm just wondering which part it is on the diagram. Is it part 19 or 22? http://www.realoem.com/bmw/showparts...83&hg=35&fg=05

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          • jrobie79
            R3VLimited
            • Mar 2006
            • 2520

            #6
            22 is the master cylinder?
            1991 318is --- currently not road worthy
            1991 318i ---- 308K - retired

            Originally posted by RickSloan
            so if you didnt get it like that did you glue fuzzy oil to the entire thing?

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            • DRTSRFR
              E30 Mastermind
              • May 2008
              • 1836

              #7
              22 is the pedal assist spring.

              19 is the return spring.

              Your symptoms sound more like a master or slave on it's way out.
              Suspension tips here...
              http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/album.php?albumid=757

              sigpic

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              • zig553
                Advanced Member
                • Sep 2011
                • 189

                #8
                I'm beginning to think that because my clutch pedal recently started sqeaking everytime I push it down now. However it hasn't gotten any worse when returning, it still returns about 3/4s of the way. How difficult is it to replace the master or slave cylinder?

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                • DRTSRFR
                  E30 Mastermind
                  • May 2008
                  • 1836

                  #9
                  The slave is easy...two bolts and the line.

                  The M/C is a little more entailed, but not rocket surgery.

                  I can do both in about an hour.
                  Suspension tips here...
                  http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/album.php?albumid=757

                  sigpic

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                  • zig553
                    Advanced Member
                    • Sep 2011
                    • 189

                    #10
                    FFFFUUUUUUUUUU!!!! So I think I found the problem, the actual black bracket that holds the Master clutch cylinder on has a big crack in it and it bending, so everytime I push the clutch pedal, the Master clutch cylinder pushrod bends too.

                    You can see the slight bend of the Master clutch cylinder near the rubber boot of it.







                    From the corrosion or rust it looks like its been like this for a while.


                    So I'm not sure how to actually remove that black bracket or if you can even buy them anymore. Also because the Master Clutch cylinder push rod was bending I'll probably have to replace that too. This car is becoming a real money pit :(

                    EDIT* I found something similar that happened to another guys pedal assembly as well, It was on an e24 but it looks like the exact same problem as mine http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum....php?t=1513888 I'll probably have to follow this guide except for the part where I have to weld, I'll also probably just buy a new assembly. Does anyone know if Auto trannys use the same sort of mounting for their pedals too? If so there's an Autotragic E30 at my local pick n pull that I'll just take the pedal assembly from and add the clutch pedal.
                    Last edited by zig553; 10-19-2011, 06:10 PM.

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                    • bmwguy325is
                      E30 Fanatic
                      • May 2011
                      • 1262

                      #11
                      MIne cracked in a different spot. I just removed it from the car and ran a bead down it. Works great
                      sigpic"If one does not fail at times, then one has not challenged himself." -Ferdinand Porsche
                      The ugly car: http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=209713

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                      • zig553
                        Advanced Member
                        • Sep 2011
                        • 189

                        #12
                        I got my pedal box welded, it was sheared across completely but its welded nice and tight now. When putting it back in I noticed my clutch return spring popped off, I've read before that sometimes it falls out and people just don't put it back in. I'm just wondering if I need it or not.

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                        • netcsk
                          E30 Mastermind
                          • Apr 2004
                          • 1609

                          #13
                          Yep. Hardly rare -- it happened to mine at the same spot. I swapped in another pedal box.

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                          • Huff
                            R3VLimited
                            • May 2006
                            • 2488

                            #14
                            That's just a helper spring, it has nothing to do with the "return" of the pedal. I usually leave it off when do auto/ manual conversions. You do not need it

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                            • TURBOX
                              Advanced Member
                              • Mar 2016
                              • 138

                              #15
                              Hi everyone,
                              Yes, Old Forum Threads Matter,,,, lol

                              The Very same thing just happened to me, i've seen a bracket you can add for additional support,,, and wanted to know the following:

                              1. will welding the old part stand the test of another 100k of usage?
                              2. has anybody welded the old housing and had any issues of it breaking again?
                              3. Any feedback on the support bracket seller/part?

                              will post sum pictures once i get settled

                              the welder guy told be 60 bucks to weld 3inchs,,, lol, a new housing is 40 bucks (housing with air bag part number is ECS# 63303 Mfg# 35111157720 )
                              Last edited by TURBOX; 02-02-2018, 10:34 AM. Reason: i cant spell
                              [1991, E-30 325i, 5-Speed, M20, Brillantrot] [1998, B5 Passat 1.8t] [2007, R6 Yamaha] [2011, Tundra 5.7]

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