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  • blocke
    E30 Fanatic
    • Mar 2009
    • 1305

    #1

    Vibration felt through brake pedal

    So my car has always had this sort of vibration. I can never figure it out, but it feels like a rubbing/grinding oscillating type of vibration. I only feel it when I am sitting at idle, with my foot on the brake pedal. I can actually feel it through the pedal. The noise cannot be heard outside the car, or inside. Simply felt. I highly doubt it's clutch/flywheel related, as I have had them out and replaced 3 times for various reasons.

    I know this is super hard to diagnose over the net, but anyone else ever experienced any similar kind of issue?
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  • jlevie
    R3V OG
    • Nov 2006
    • 13530

    #2
    There are no hard connections between the engine and the brake system, but vibrations caused by the engine can be transmitted to the body and then to the brake pedal. The first things I'd check would be the motor & transmission mounts, guibo, and exhaust.
    The car makes it possible, but the driver makes it happen.
    Jim Levie, Huntsville, AL

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    • blocke
      E30 Fanatic
      • Mar 2009
      • 1305

      #3
      Originally posted by jlevie
      There are no hard connections between the engine and the brake system, but vibrations caused by the engine can be transmitted to the body and then to the brake pedal. The first things I'd check would be the motor & transmission mounts, guibo, and exhaust.
      I was thinking the same thing, so perplexing. Motor mounts are OE for all I know, so they could be suspect. Tranny mounts are brand new, and exhaust is solid (been on an off the car 3 times recently). Guibo is also new, replaced it when I had my tranny out.

      I might replace the motor mounts since they should be done anyway, see if that helps.

      Just in theory, if there was a problem with the rotating assembly, how would that be apparent? Would a bad crank bearing or something cause this type of vibration?
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      • jlevie
        R3V OG
        • Nov 2006
        • 13530

        #4
        Replace the motor mount. The odds are that they are way overdue.

        Most problems in the rotating parts will present symptoms other than what you describe. However, a bad pressure plate is a possibility.
        The car makes it possible, but the driver makes it happen.
        Jim Levie, Huntsville, AL

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        • dogsbark26
          E30 Addict
          • Nov 2008
          • 533

          #5
          ABS pump?

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          • blocke
            E30 Fanatic
            • Mar 2009
            • 1305

            #6
            Originally posted by dogsbark26
            ABS pump?
            I suppose it is possible. It feel like a vibration that is caused by something rotating though. I'm going to replace the mounts, they are due anyway.
            The pressure plate, clutch, TO bearing, Pilot, etc. all are brand new.
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            • u3b3rg33k
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              • Jan 2010
              • 2452

              #7
              ABS pedal feel is very distinct, and this description sounds nothing like that. You'd definitely be able to hear it as well.

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              • blocke
                E30 Fanatic
                • Mar 2009
                • 1305

                #8
                Update: found the cause

                Busted out the stethescope today and listened all over for the cause of this. Turns out the sound and vibration was coming from my power steering pump. I removed the belt, started that cAr and the vibration and noise was gone. I put the belt back on, a little looser this time. Noise and vibration are still gone. I think it was too tight, perhaps straining the bearings or pulling it slightly out of alignment enough to bind? Who knows, but I'm relieved it's not something major.
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                • dogsbark26
                  E30 Addict
                  • Nov 2008
                  • 533

                  #9
                  Thank you for letting us know. Glad you've fixed it.

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                  • bmwstudent
                    E30 Fanatic
                    • Sep 2011
                    • 1364

                    #10
                    the mechanics stethoscope, a very useful tool. congrats
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