Location of ground for rear lights? Picture?

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  • ELVA164
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    • Dec 2011
    • 4861

    #16
    Took all of the bulbs out yesterday and a few of the bases looked flattened out. There was a bit of pockmarking on the spring steel they touch as well. Getting all new bulbs today to see if that helps, then maybe I'll swap the check panel and see if that does anything.
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    • ELVA164
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      • Dec 2011
      • 4861

      #17
      Replaced all the bulbs with new nickel-base ones, tried a different check panel, and all I've managed to do is make the flashing running lights more obvious with the new bulbs. :( Can someone please lead me to a picture of splice 324 and/or ground 300? Is there a separate ground for the third brake light, or is that the same one?
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      • ELVA164
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        • Dec 2011
        • 4861

        #18
        So aside from still not knowing where the ground and splice are, the only thing I thought of that I haven't 100% ruled out is some kind of malfunction in the plates that hold the bulb sockets. I won't be home until Monday, but the last time I tried to remove one it was pretty stubborn. Are the plates generally easy or hard to remove? That might be a hint to a possible issue.
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        • ELVA164
          R3V Elite
          • Dec 2011
          • 4861

          #19
          I'm bumping this because I'd still like to see a picture of this ground and/or the splice for the taillights. I've narrowed it down to either a problem here or in the light assemblies themselves, which I can't replace at the moment. Please led me a hand!
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          • Todd Black 88
            No R3VLimiter
            • Oct 2007
            • 3449

            #20
            These things can be really trying.
            I am still trying to figure out my own check panel issue. If I start my car with the brake pedal depressed, the rear lights check panel will not clear untill I turn the car off. If I push the panel button, the check on the dash goes away, but the light on the panel stays lit. But.....if I start the car with my foot off the brake pedal, then press the pedal, it all clears like normal. I have replaced both the check control relay and the check panel itself without change.
            Good luck with your issue, mine is kicking my ass.
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            • FastAndLight
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              • May 2012
              • 62

              #21
              Originally posted by Todd Black 88
              These things can be really trying.
              I am still trying to figure out my own check panel issue. If I start my car with the brake pedal depressed, the rear lights check panel will not clear untill I turn the car off. If I push the panel button, the check on the dash goes away, but the light on the panel stays lit. But.....if I start the car with my foot off the brake pedal, then press the pedal, it all clears like normal. I have replaced both the check control relay and the check panel itself without change.
              Good luck with your issue, mine is kicking my ass.
              Have you tried replacing the brake switch?

              I have a similar issue but mine is much more intermittent, some days it will clear fine, others it won't, now I've been a week or so since it last cleared. I have been trying to track this down for the last year. I have replaced the switch and the bulbs and have tried to attack it with a multimeter, but I don't seem to have any voltage or grounding issues.

              Does anyone know what the proper resistance is supposed to be across the various circuits? Maybe across the bulbs. That way I could check my lights and see what is up. How do you diagnose the Check Panel to make sure that it isn't the problem?

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              • Todd Black 88
                No R3VLimiter
                • Oct 2007
                • 3449

                #22
                Yes, new switch was installed also. I am at a loss
                Originally posted by codyep3
                I hope to Christ you have looks going for you, because you sure as fuck don't have any intelligence.
                2001 silver/Blk 325 cabby. SOLD
                1988 Blk/Blk e30 factory wide body kit car SOLD
                1992 DS/BLK 325 m-tech II apperance pack cabby SOLD!
                2002 325xit Sil/blk. SOLD
                2012 328i xdrive touring. Wht/blk. SOLD
                2009 135 cabby. monacoblue/blk leather SOLD
                2007 Z4m coupe. Silver grey/black/ aluminum. 1of50
                2010 F650gs twin
                2016 M235i cabby. Mineral grey/Red leather

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                • FastAndLight
                  Member
                  • May 2012
                  • 62

                  #23
                  Originally posted by Todd Black 88
                  Yes, new switch was installed also. I am at a loss
                  And I assume you have traced the circuit paths as laid out in the ETM?

                  If yours clears when you don't start the car with your foot on the brake and consistently clears otherwise, then at least it is consistent. It might be worth getting used to starting the car like that.

                  When I ran new stereo wires I really cleaned up the ground in the back seat and I was hoping that would clear up my issues, as it was pretty corroded. It did nothing for the check panel issue.

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                  • ELVA164
                    R3V Elite
                    • Dec 2011
                    • 4861

                    #24
                    Originally posted by Todd Black 88
                    These things can be really trying.
                    I am still trying to figure out my own check panel issue. If I start my car with the brake pedal depressed, the rear lights check panel will not clear untill I turn the car off. If I push the panel button, the check on the dash goes away, but the light on the panel stays lit. But.....if I start the car with my foot off the brake pedal, then press the pedal, it all clears like normal. I have replaced both the check control relay and the check panel itself without change.
                    Good luck with your issue, mine is kicking my ass.
                    Just in case it's not all in this thread, here's what I've done so far:

                    Checked for corrosion in each taillight assembly and third brake light assembly
                    Checked tightness of bulbs in each assembly
                    Made sure each bulb had a nickel base, not brass
                    Replaced EVERY bulb...
                    Checked, cleaned, and replaced the ground pictured in my earlier post
                    DISCONNECTED that ground and tried the rear lights, which all continued to work
                    Searched for a ground splice somewhere near the driver's taillight with no success.
                    Replaced check panel (but only because the one I had broke)

                    Maybe there's something in there that might help you.

                    I think the next thing I'll try is unplugging one taillight assembly and seeing if the other behaves the same or not. I know they have a common ground, but you never know.
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                    • ELVA164
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                      • Dec 2011
                      • 4861

                      #25
                      :( Nothing?
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                      • 11smithjilsss12
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                        • Aug 2013
                        • 2

                        #26


                        A bad brake light ground connection will result in the brake lights not working, or power crossfeeding through the tail-light circuit, preventing both tail and brake lights froms working at the same time. Repairing the connection is a project that is well within the range of the do-it-yourselfer. Have a question? Get an answer from a Mechanic now!
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                        • 11smithjilsss12
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                          • Aug 2013
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                          #27
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                          • ELVA164
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                            • Dec 2011
                            • 4861

                            #28
                            Damnit...I thought I had an actual response. That is a pretty eloquent bot though...
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