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    #16
    hmm there is alot to be said about getting an e30, it all comes down to what you plan to do, it sounds like you want a car that is going to be reliable, but can take a thrashing at your local events. this is my break down of all the models.
    we will start with the early 318i. These are a very bare bones car. the m10 is a great power plant as far as reliability but are very slow, but they have been proven to respond well to boost. but it sounds like your trying to stray away from anything like that. Then there is the fact that they have drum brakes, easy retrofit but yet again sounds like you wanna stay away from that. it has 45mm fronts struts when the later model cars all have the 51mm strut housing. if you were to do any kind of suspension work you would want to switch to the later. the pros are that they are very light, and can make a great track car.

    now onto the 325e
    These cars make a great base in my opion because they can be had for practicly nothing. the m20 in these cars are super reliable, i have had multiple ones with over 300000 thousand miles and ran very well. they all have disk brakes if i remember correctly. most of them have the 51mm stuts but some do not if they are very early, so when you go to buy them check it out. the m20 in these cars are very very slow but that may not be such a bad thing if your main goal is to teach the kid car control. then you can always do the i head swap, i motor swap or any of the motor swap options out there not counting the different formulas for bost.

    325i
    this is my personal favorite out of all the basic e30's minus the m3. It comes with a great powerplant the m20b25. it makes decent power and torque. the motor is quite smooth and very reliable. there are plenty of different formulas to make power from these cars. they are a bit heavier than the early 318, but the more powerful motor, more modern engine managment, 51mm strut tubes, disk brakes and then all the differnt trim levels i believe it is the better car. sounds like an is would be the way for you guys to go because it comes with the factory lsd and sport seats that will work for the occasional track day.

    318is
    this car is also very very cool. as far as i know they only came as a coupe, and a 5speed. some even came with factory lsd witch will be essential if your gonna autocross/track the car. they have all the same features as the i car but they have the m42 4 cylinder. the motor is very fun and likes to rev. i have personaly owned both a 325i and 318is and the performance difference is marginal from stock. the 325 is gonna be faster but the m42 has the weight advantage and has great front rear bias because of the lighter and placed farther back motor. the m42 seems to need more maintance becasue they have the issues with the profile gasket, guides, and depending on how many miles the car is that your looking at is it may need all new timing componets which can get pricy. all the m20's need is the timing belt/water pump and a tune up usually.

    I hope this helps in your buying decision, i didn't list the m3 because looking at your options didn't seem like a consideration. also sorry about the spelling and grammer in this post, it has never been my strong suit!

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      #17
      wow - THANKS!

      now I am sure I messed up, I passed on a 318is for some cosmetic issues that was mechanically sound - I even paid for an inspection which is how I discovered the front had been whacked - medium sheet metal damage, not too deeply - car checked out well though and I passed - DANG!

      I also believe I am going to pass on the current top runner and am SOOOO glad I stopped by and posted this thread

      - the search continues -
      on the one hand I feel dumb for missing a pretty good car, but feel really good about learning to steer clear of what would end up being the wrong choice - I can always find another "right" one

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        #18
        It pays to wait for the right E30. Don't be afraid to travel for the right one. I went 6.5 hours each way for my first one, and it ended up being the only E30 I've had that was worth keeping.

        I would suggest that an M42 powered E30 makes a better first car, mainly due to the lack of torque vs the M20, and the sometimes finicky nature of the engine which will allow your son to earn his car with wrench time, which I would hope give the ability to value it as more than just a car.

        I would also suggest passing on most regular (non swapped/built) E30s with M badges, 17" wheels, and most every bling sort of add on as it seems to correlate nicely with poor maintenance and mistreatment of the vehicle. After all, it's great fun to start stock and go from there!

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          #19
          RUT ROE - jumped off into the deep end - pics to follow........
          Thanks for all the help, in the end - the right car fell out of the sky and hit me in the head

          I know what I said - but I found an 88' Euro Deliver super eta 5 speed 2 door that was just to hard to pass - I had planned to wait for a nice 318is - but i am just no good at waiting

          pics to follow -

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              #21
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                #22
                and a few more - (not liking this file system...betting there is an easier way)
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                  #23
                  geesh, this guy is excited
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                    #24
                    I think you have a good one there!

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                      #25
                      Thanks, no buyers remorse yet, but I stepped up a little for it

                      Something about not starting with the need to fix things right away appealed to me
                      I'll tech it and see how it does in a novice track shake down, see where to go from here, but plan to just keep it simple....after all, if I waned a full out track monster, I would not start with a nice clean interior ;)

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                        #26
                        Looks great. I have a 88 seta as well, it's a great model, you get almost everything an I car does except the cam and valve springs, it will make a for a great car to Learn on then upgrade the cam and topend and regear it to have I car performance.
                        Shawn @ Bimmerbuddies
                        Bimmerbuddies LLC
                        717-388-1256
                        2971a Roundtop Rd, Middletown PA 17057
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                          #27
                          So planning a base line maintenance program, guess oil change is the first step....

                          Any oil suggestions - hahahah!
                          I'll pick up some things though and go through the car, seriously, what is my "must do/check list"

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                            #28
                            Hmmm...love it when you find the right parts, installed correctly....oil drain plug seal ring :roll:
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                              #29
                              Nice looking car. The cooling system looks way past its prime. I would replace the radiator, t-stat, and all coolant hoses. Check the fan clutch. Replace intake boot, all spark plugs and O2 sensor. When was the timing belt/water pump last changed? I would do that too if it has not been changed recently. Perform a valve adjustment. Clean the CPS off all the built-up gunk (brake cleaner works well). After that, have a shop perform a smoke test to find any vacuum leaks. Trust me on this one...a proper smoke test will save you tons of headache down the road. I am sure there are other things you should do, but these should be the minimal PM for your car. Enjoy your E30.

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                                #30
                                Oh, one other annoying thing that you should take care immediately...take out the instrument cluster and check the SI board/batteries. If you see corrosion then you should have the board re-built. If everything looks good you should still check/replace the batteries (they are over 20 yrs old). Also, remember to tighten the ground nuts behind the gauges or your needles will go dancing or scare the shit out of you when the temp needle approaches the red zone.

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