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  • ST1G
    R3V OG
    • Oct 2012
    • 6689

    #1

    Blower motor

    So, I'm trying to trouble shoot why the blower motor isn't working on my 1987 eta.

    I'm getting power to both sides of fuse 20 with a test light. The fuse blew a few times when I was driving the car last winter. I don't get any fan on any setting inside the car. I changed the blower motor resistor with no change, still don't get anything motor movement. The fan motor turns by hand with no noise, or drag that feels 'off'. I don't want to replace the motor if that's not what's wrong, but I'm not sure what else there could be. Is there anything else it could be? I was thinking the switch in the car but I would be surprised if that failed. Any help would be appreciated. It's been 10 degrees or lower here for a week with wicked traffic. It's not fun not having heat.
  • ThatOneEuroE30
    R3V OG
    • Dec 2013
    • 8626

    #2
    Maybe when the fuse blew it fried the motor. Have you tested the switch though to see if the power goes to it.


    1989 325is l 1984 euro 320i l 1970 2002 Racecar
    1991 318i 4dr slick top


    Euro spec 320i/Alpina B6 3.5 project(the never ending saga)
    Vintage race car revival (2002 content)
    Mtech 2 turbo restoration
    Brilliantrot slick top "build"

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    • Swanny
      R3VLimited
      • Mar 2012
      • 2834

      #3
      Swanny!
      SUCKERS.

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      • ST1G
        R3V OG
        • Oct 2012
        • 6689

        #4
        Originally posted by ThatOneEuroE30
        Maybe when the fuse blew it fried the motor. Have you tested the switch though to see if the power goes to it.
        I actually just said fuck it and pulled the whole motor out, zip tied it to the plastic piece that covers it, and hooked it up to a wind turbine. It spun like a turbo prop, I'm surprised you didn't see all the corn fields blow over there in Nebraska it was so strong.

        So, now I'm thinking it's the switch in the car. I think the electrical system goes like this for the fan.

        Switch in car > Relay (good since fuse works) > Fuse 20 (hot) > load reduction attached to blower motor housing for speeds (replaced with new hella unit) > Blower motor (tested with wind turbine).

        I don't think the resister gets power unless the switch in the car is turned. I'm not getting any power to it.

        Originally posted by Swanny


        I don't drive around with a sloth so I can use the car pool. I think a standard heating system would do me if I can get it working.

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        • ThatOneEuroE30
          R3V OG
          • Dec 2013
          • 8626

          #5
          Yea i believe the resistor only gets power when the switch is on cause the resistor controls fan speed. I may be wrong though. I hate
          Electrical gremlins.


          1989 325is l 1984 euro 320i l 1970 2002 Racecar
          1991 318i 4dr slick top


          Euro spec 320i/Alpina B6 3.5 project(the never ending saga)
          Vintage race car revival (2002 content)
          Mtech 2 turbo restoration
          Brilliantrot slick top "build"

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          • JIM1inWisconsin
            Advanced Member
            • Dec 2014
            • 116

            #6
            A new resister costs about $30 and takes about 30 minutes to install. Do this first. If your blower still does not work the blower needs to be replaced. Replacing the blower can be a little tricky.

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            • vpilarrt
              R3VLimited
              • Jun 2006
              • 2096

              #7
              When the fan speed switch is on 4 (highest setting) the resister pack is not even in the circuit. So if you get no fan at 4 then its something other than the resistor. Are you getting power to the switch (green/brown wire)? Power out on position 4 is on the blue wire. See pages 6413-0, 6413A-0, 6431A-1 for schematic and troubleshooting: http://wedophones.com/Manuals/BMW/19...g%20Manual.pdf

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              • ST1G
                R3V OG
                • Oct 2012
                • 6689

                #8
                Originally posted by JIM1inWisconsin
                A new resister costs about $30 and takes about 30 minutes to install. Do this first. If your blower still does not work the blower needs to be replaced. Replacing the blower can be a little tricky.
                You obviously didn't read the thread. I changed the resister already, and have pulled the fan out and applied 12v to it, and it spins great.

                Originally posted by vpilarrt
                When the fan speed switch is on 4 (highest setting) the resister pack is not even in the circuit. So if you get no fan at 4 then its something other than the resistor. Are you getting power to the switch (green/brown wire)? Power out on position 4 is on the blue wire. See pages 6413-0, 6413A-0, 6431A-1 for schematic and troubleshooting: http://wedophones.com/Manuals/BMW/19...g%20Manual.pdf
                Now this is actually helpful. Thanks! I think it's the switch, I haven't pulled apart the HVAC panel yet to test the switch. I'm not getting any power at any position. I will go through with the multi meter/test light and see what I'm getting.

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                • JIM1inWisconsin
                  Advanced Member
                  • Dec 2014
                  • 116

                  #9
                  Sorry missed it. Just went through a blower problem myself. Worked only on 4. Swaped out blowers which did not solve the problem until the new resister was installed which then worked for me. Your problem does seem more involved. Good luck.

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                  • ST1G
                    R3V OG
                    • Oct 2012
                    • 6689

                    #10
                    Originally posted by JIM1inWisconsin
                    Sorry missed it. Just went through a blower problem myself. Worked only on 4. Swapped out blowers which did not solve the problem until the new resister was installed which then worked for me. Your problem does seem more involved. Good luck.
                    Thanks mate, unfortunately it is more involved. I'm really hoping its the switch, because I don't want to go through the wiring in-between.

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                    • vpilarrt
                      R3VLimited
                      • Jun 2006
                      • 2096

                      #11
                      BTW, I have a working fan switch if you decide you need one.

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                      • ST1G
                        R3V OG
                        • Oct 2012
                        • 6689

                        #12
                        Originally posted by vpilarrt
                        BTW, I have a working fan switch if you decide you need one.
                        Awesome, I will keep that in mind :up:

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                        • ST1G
                          R3V OG
                          • Oct 2012
                          • 6689

                          #13
                          FIXED IT! NOW MY BITCHES CAN BE WARM!

                          For other members sake, I'll post what I did.

                          Since I had power at the fuse 20, and no power at the motor connector, but I knew the motor worked I figured it was the speed selector switch. So, I whipped out the Bentley to see what wire got power. Pulled off the HVAC panel and found I was getting no power to Green/Brown, which I should have. So, then I figured it was the junction S230 since, that was the only junction I saw. LUCKLEY, I double checked the Bentley against an online diagram. I then saw C204. Well, turns out C204 is a 9pin connector (it's white in my 1987 with a build date of 9/86) under the dash. It was unplugged -.- I plugged that bitch in, and now get power at the speed selector, and at the positive connector at the blower motor. I don't have the blower motor installed, but I know it spins to 12v, so I'll make sure that the connector at the motor is getting 12v before I install it.

                          I've learned on both this issue, and the no start troubleshooting on my other car that I need to stop being such a little bitch and just read wiring diagrams.

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                          • ThatOneEuroE30
                            R3V OG
                            • Dec 2013
                            • 8626

                            #14
                            Originally posted by ST1G
                            FIXED IT! NOW MY BITCHES CAN BE WARM!

                            For other members sake, I'll post what I did.

                            Since I had power at the fuse 20, and no power at the motor connector, but I knew the motor worked I figured it was the speed selector switch. So, I whipped out the Bentley to see what wire got power. Pulled off the HVAC panel and found I was getting no power to Green/Brown, which I should have. So, then I figured it was the junction S230 since, that was the only junction I saw. LUCKLEY, I double checked the Bentley against an online diagram. I then saw C204. Well, turns out C204 is a 9pin connector (it's white in my 1987 with a build date of 9/86) under the dash. It was unplugged -.- I plugged that bitch in, and now get power at the speed selector, and at the positive connector at the blower motor. I don't have the blower motor installed, but I know it spins to 12v, so I'll make sure that the connector at the motor is getting 12v before I install it.

                            I've learned on both this issue, and the no start troubleshooting on my other car that I need to stop being such a little bitch and just read wiring diagrams.

                            Good now go fix your other car


                            1989 325is l 1984 euro 320i l 1970 2002 Racecar
                            1991 318i 4dr slick top


                            Euro spec 320i/Alpina B6 3.5 project(the never ending saga)
                            Vintage race car revival (2002 content)
                            Mtech 2 turbo restoration
                            Brilliantrot slick top "build"

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