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  • Zekerbox
    Wrencher
    • Mar 2011
    • 221

    #1

    New to Rev - Need Build Advice

    I'm not new to BMW's but new to the e30 scene. I know a lot about E39's (I have an 01 E39 M5) but not as much as I would like about E30's. After the last few years of driving schools in my M5 I've come to the conclusion its just too expensive to race. Last year I bent a fender on the race track due to a low tire and aggressive tire fitment.

    I recently picked up an E30 project. I want to turn it into my AutoX/Track Car. My first concern in looking for a platform was I didn't want to do body work! I hate body work. I'm not a welder or a painter so rusty, beat up body is not an option. I found an 85 325e with original paint in Alpinblau Metallic that runs and drives (but needs a lot of work to be driveable safely).Original Cloth interior in good condition with Cloth sport seats. The engine has 280k on the ticker and is a 3 owner car. I snagged the car for $750 bucks.

    My goal is ultimately to have a good reliable track car that I can afford to put on the track every chance I get!

    Initial Plans are:
    Complete suspension refresh
    Possible M50 swap (I have a line on a running 525i 92' doner car for $400)
    Wheels and tires


    Any advice or directions on priorities or direction to go would be advise. Anything I should know or take into consideration with this car?

    Thanks! And I look forward to documenting my build here.
  • ELVA164
    R3V Elite
    • Dec 2011
    • 4861

    #2
    Just as a heads-up, the 525i has the M20 as far as I know. If you don't swap the motor, you'll need to do a timing belt and water pump first, followed by a full fluid flush and change (that includes brake/clutch), replacement of all brake hoses, probably a full brake caliper/rotor/pad replacement (or rebuild the calipers if you're so inclined), a smoke test to find--not check for--intake leaks, probably a good look at all suspension bushings, the sway bar end links are probably shot, and that should get you on your way. To add some "pep" to the 2.7, you can add an aftermarket chip, swap the differential for a 3.64, 3.73, or 3.91 (but I'd think the 3.9 would be a bit short), or even do some research on the "2.7i" conversion if you don't mind some engine work.

    Also, welcome! :)
    Interested in vintage cars? Ever thought about racing one? Info, photos, videos, and more can be found at www.michaelsvintageracing.com!

    Elva Courier build thread here!

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    • Zekerbox
      Wrencher
      • Mar 2011
      • 221

      #3
      Originally posted by ELVA164
      Just as a heads-up, the 525i has the M20 as far as I know. If you don't swap the motor, you'll need to do a timing belt and water pump first, followed by a full fluid flush and change (that includes brake/clutch), replacement of all brake hoses, probably a full brake caliper/rotor/pad replacement (or rebuild the calipers if you're so inclined), a smoke test to find--not check for--intake leaks, probably a good look at all suspension bushings, the sway bar end links are probably shot, and that should get you on your way. To add some "pep" to the 2.7, you can add an aftermarket chip, swap the differential for a 3.64, 3.73, or 3.91 (but I'd think the 3.9 would be a bit short), or even do some research on the "2.7i" conversion if you don't mind some engine work.

      Also, welcome! :)
      Thanks for the welcome! Its actually a 93' 525i and as far as I know its the non vanos M50 in those. I don't really want an M30 as they are much heavier. From what I've been reading the M50 is very close to the same weight as the M20b27 and shouldn't change the car's handling much if any. I found this thread http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/show...highlight=327i and I'm assuming this is what you meant by 2.7i mod?

      I may just leave the 2.7 for now. I know my driving skills aren't good enough to need a lot of HP lol.
      Last edited by Zekerbox; 01-16-2015, 02:28 PM.

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      • ELVA164
        R3V Elite
        • Dec 2011
        • 4861

        #4
        Originally posted by Zekerbox
        Thanks for the welcome! Its actually a 93' 525i and as far as I know its the non vanos M50 in those. I don't really want an M30 as they are much heavier. From what I've been reading the M50 is very close to the same weight as the M20b27 and shouldn't change the car's handling much if any. I found this thread http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/show...highlight=327i and I'm assuming this is what you meant by 2.7i mod?

        I may just leave the 2.7 for now. I know my driving skills aren't good enough to need a lot of HP lol.
        Oh, okay. Just wanted to make sure!

        Yep, that's what I meant. I don't have any personal experience with it but it seems that a well-done head and wiring swap plus a chip from someone like SSSquid on here seems to make a pretty noticeable difference while keeping pretty much all OEM stuff. But if you'll keep the motor the same (besides that maintenance stuff I mentioned!) I'd definitely look into at least a different final drive. I'd think the 3.64 or even a 3.25 would be a good improvement, since I'm pretty sure that car has a 2.79 right now. Obviously aim for a LSD if you do decide to swap.
        Interested in vintage cars? Ever thought about racing one? Info, photos, videos, and more can be found at www.michaelsvintageracing.com!

        Elva Courier build thread here!

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        • agent
          Vice Grand Pubaa
          • Mar 2010
          • 7960

          #5
          I did something similar to what you're describing. Check Lola's build thread, linked in my sig.
          Originally posted by kronus
          would be in depending on tip slant and tube size

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          • Zekerbox
            Wrencher
            • Mar 2011
            • 221

            #6
            Originally posted by agent
            I did something similar to what you're describing. Check Lola's build thread, linked in my sig.
            Will do! Thanks

            Sent from my XT1096 using Tapatalk

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            • Zekerbox
              Wrencher
              • Mar 2011
              • 221

              #7
              I'm looking for a good deal on a 3.64 but I think they aren't easy to find.

              Sent from my XT1096 using Tapatalk

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              • ELVA164
                R3V Elite
                • Dec 2011
                • 4861

                #8
                They are less common, only came in the 7 series. Look into either a 3.25 or 3.73. The 3.73 is the most common of the three.
                Interested in vintage cars? Ever thought about racing one? Info, photos, videos, and more can be found at www.michaelsvintageracing.com!

                Elva Courier build thread here!

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                • Zekerbox
                  Wrencher
                  • Mar 2011
                  • 221

                  #9
                  Anyone run the 3.73 on a stock eta? Opinions?

                  Too short gearing?

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                  • ELVA164
                    R3V Elite
                    • Dec 2011
                    • 4861

                    #10
                    Just did some quick reading and it sounds like a 3.25 with a chip is the way to go, no shorter unless you do the head swap.
                    Interested in vintage cars? Ever thought about racing one? Info, photos, videos, and more can be found at www.michaelsvintageracing.com!

                    Elva Courier build thread here!

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                    • Zekerbox
                      Wrencher
                      • Mar 2011
                      • 221

                      #11
                      Originally posted by ELVA164
                      Just did some quick reading and it sounds like a 3.25 with a chip is the way to go, no shorter unless you do the head swap.
                      Ya the gears would be pretty short over 3.25 I would think.

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