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  • badvibrations
    E30 Addict
    • Feb 2007
    • 447

    #1

    I got worms!

    OK, Here's the deal.
    The colder the weather is the harder it is for my 88 325is to start.

    -The battery cranks the starter and motor just fine.

    -Plenty of throttle feathering and manuevering is required to get her to start.

    -Once started there is alot of that rich unburnt fuel smell in the large cloud of exhaust, and strong rich smell in general untill she is at normal opperating temp but even then it's still kinda there.

    -Also when cold she holds a very low rough idle.

    -It also seems that if, after started(while still cold), I open her up and hold her at 3500-4000 rpm there is kind of a quick miss(almost a gurgle) as if she is coughing out some phl(fuel)em, if i continue it seems to work its way out in a few seconds.

    I have checked my Idle Control Valve as described in the Bently. I have been told that maybe its an o2 sensor problem but I've since had that replaced with no change in the problem.
    People have suggested checking for vacume leaks in intake bellows and booster lines I have none. People have suggested AFM and I've tried one off of a normal opperating e30is with no success. The only thing suggested that I havent tried is the coolant temp sensor. I haven't tried this because I am unsure as to which one it is(the Injector temp sensor that screws into the thermostat housing;or the three-prong temp sensor that screws into the radiator).
    I have tried searching the forums and had no luck finding a good answer. Although when I have seen others ask this question they leave it as simple as "car hard to start when cold" it is my hope that the info provided will set off an alarm in someones mind and give me a good place to start.
    *edit I don't believe that it's anything in my sig.*
    Last edited by badvibrations; 02-17-2007, 12:50 PM.

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  • CarsSuck
    E30 Modder
    • Oct 2005
    • 968

    #2
    definitely look into that temp sensor. I'm 98% sure its the one on the Thermostat housing, but your going to have to check the bently for that. It has a procedure for checking the sensor. I would just replace it, i think its a cheap part and it seems the most likely culprit for what you described.
    --Will

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    • badvibrations
      E30 Addict
      • Feb 2007
      • 447

      #3
      Thanks d00d...I was awaiting a response so i could place the order...both of the sensors are reasonably cheap so me thinks I may just go ahead and get both.
      :pimp:Solid
      I'll let you know how it pans out.
      Thanks again.

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      • AdamF 88iS
        R3VLimited
        • Oct 2003
        • 2051

        #4
        The sensor you are looking for is the blue one. The brown one is for teh gauge in the car.

        I'd also check for a leaking injector. You could be flooding one cylinder and loosing fuel pressure at the same time.
        Adam Fogg- '88 M3

        Common sense- It's the new 'gifted'

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        • badvibrations
          E30 Addict
          • Feb 2007
          • 447

          #5
          Originally posted by AdamF 88iS
          The sensor you are looking for is the blue one. The brown one is for teh gauge in the car.
          Are both of these sensors located on or around the thermostat housing?

          Originally posted by AdamF 88iS
          I'd also check for a leaking injector. You could be flooding one cylinder and loosing fuel pressure at the same time.
          When you say a leaking injector you mean that the o-ring/seals are bad?
          And could this^ also be causing missin', spittin', back firin', running rich even after warm up?

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          • CarsSuck
            E30 Modder
            • Oct 2005
            • 968

            #6
            Originally posted by badvibrations
            Are both of these sensors located on or around the thermostat housing?
            Yes. didnt you say you have a bently manual?
            --Will

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            • badvibrations
              E30 Addict
              • Feb 2007
              • 447

              #7
              Originally posted by CarsSuck
              Yes. didnt you say you have a bently manual?
              yeah...yeah
              The only web access I have is at work(resturant) so I am not at home where my car and Bently are...and I just figured I'd ask in order to waste everyone else's time and save my own! ;)

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              • HST
                Mod Crazy
                • Jan 2006
                • 757

                #8
                I think he means an injector that is always injecting fuel into the cyl. Leaky O ring does not make a car run rich, it would run lean.
                Originally posted by KingB
                Scratch my back and I buy a prostitute for you, to rub your balls. HAHA now thats some funny shit.

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                • badvibrations
                  E30 Addict
                  • Feb 2007
                  • 447

                  #9
                  How do I check for leaky injectors? Is that in the Bently?

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