But when they bind, they will flex. My comment relates to how much they flex when they bind. Rubber will flex more than urethane under similar circumstances, and most stock and M3 CA Bushings don't have grease fittings so they'd be subject to the same binding as urethane (although rubber may not bind as easily).
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Originally posted by aaron_silvaTalk to Steve Dinan. He will school you on how rubber is better than urethane. And believe me, if you met him and talked to him, he would make a believer out of you.
Aaron
I seriously can't believe you told me to talk to steve dinan. He'd be the last tuner I'd listen to. :roll: What were you thinking? If I had a brand new E46 325 that was under warrantee that MY MOM was going to drive, then I'd go to Dinan and tell him to modify the car. wow...i'm speechless...
EDIT: Just saw your last post: Even on a street car you DONT WANT flex. What the hell point is it to modify a street car then. Let's get this straight now, rubber is only best for a completely bone stock street car, with no performance oriented driving wanted from the driver. I have to say I'm rather disappointed with your last string of posts.
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Ya know, I used to have such a high opinion of you. But now you're proving to be as dumb as everyone else.
Oooo, ONE FUCKING CAR. . notice how the label says a ONE OFF 8 series. Yea, I'm not saying he hasn't built serious cars. But look at the business....YAWN.... super lame.
Listen, why are you being so shortminded? One car doesnt make up for all the second rate performance work that dinan does, and stands behind as what to expect from Dinan work. Sorry. How many times do you see that car as a Dinan adverstisement. uhh..never. Wait...can you buy those parts? No. None of the stuff used on that car is regular inventory. Not to mention, again, to have him do that to your car will probably cost 100k or more, who know with dinans outrageous prices. Wait..wait...does that say 600hp, cause you never know with his dyno sheets that are made up and look like they've been drawn by a child with a crayon.
I'd gladly take an 8 series to AA and have them build a car that would be better in every aspect than that DInan 8 and it would cost less. You go look at a REAL BMW tuner. How many outrageous cars have they built? Hartge, Alpina, Active Autowerke....what are these tuners known for? What is Dinan known for....squat.
No one's opinions or tour of a factory can change my opionion on THE FACTS of how lame Dinan is and their second rate performance products....
EDIT: I've done a LOT of research on dinan. And the facts are the facts. I would never take a car I own there unless my mom was the only person that would be driving it and it had to stay under warrantee.
332iS R.I.P.
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They also have a great in house chasis dyno and engine dyno with more than just a simply fan blow air infront of it. Engineering is engineering. I was impressed at the R&D that goes into every product. Why are they the last ones to produce products for cars? They take their time. Very detail oriented. I am sorry, but my opinion does not make me "dumb."
Here is a link to the info on Dinan's dyno: http://dinancars.com/whitepapersFile.asp?ID=9
Aaron
Edit: Sorry for all the off topic comments. It will end now.
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Originally posted by C ///MI'd gladly take an 8 series to AA and have them build a car that would be better in every aspect than that DInan 8 and it would cost less.
Originally posted by C ///MNo one's opinions or tour of a factory can change my opionion on THE FACTS of how lame Dinan is and their second rate performance products....
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Originally posted by KenyonI don't really see how you can say they are second rate, they have people running tests and doing research for months, sometimes even a year or more on products that they could have had out on the market a long time ago.
Aaron, wow, you're absolutely right. I would love to use their dyno. Then I could dyno a e30 325i and have 194hp @ 5750rpms with only a chip, extrudely honed intake manifold, and free-flow exhaust system. My God, their products must BE UNBELIEVABLE if they can get more power from a stock 2.5l than any other tuner in the world.
194hp @5750rpms with chip, extrudely honed intake manifold, and free-flow exhaust on stock m20b2.5
I thought I'd re-emphasize that for you. Oh look, and they have a dyno chart to prove it. It must be from that awesome dyno they have.... You guys sound stupid. Are you really that naive?
Notice I said sound stupid, not are.. I take back negative comments I said towards your intelligence as there was no need. But your argument sounds very empty.
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You can think whatever you want. I feel sorry for you.
I would never believe anyone who flat out LIES about the gains EVERY ONE of his products gives.BMW North America REJECTED Steve DInan's products when he tried negotiating a deal. Dinan assciation is stictly on a DEALER to DEALER BASIS. Meaning, the owner of the dealership can choose to endorse Dinan Products and sell them or not. DINAN is in no way affiliated with BMW, unlike Aplina and Hartge. Now if you go to these real tuners such as Hartge or Alpina, BMW provides them with chassis's to sell under the BMW/Alpina or BMW/Hartge name. BMW accepts their products and tuning.
If Dinan's work isn't good enough for BMW or BMW NA, then it sure as hell isnt' good enough for me as an official bmw tuner.
332iS R.I.P.
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