New Project...another stroker but different internal design.

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  • modifiede30
    Forum Sponsor
    • Oct 2003
    • 1208

    #1

    New Project...another stroker but different internal design.

    Well, I just purchased another eta crank, and since I have my old 325i engine, I think I might make another stroker, but do it a little differently to see what happens. I'm thinking I might use the 325i rods and pistons (or eta rods), whichever work with the 325i pistons. I know this won't work without some machining of the pistons. Anyone familiar with the specs on what needs to be machined off the tops? I'm also wondering if the piston pins can be moved down an appropriate length rather than have the tops machined. When the other machine work was done, the guy told me he could move the location of the piston within the rod when he pressed in new bushing for the piston pin. I'm assuming the same could be done here, and possibly lighten then at the same time. I'm also interested in have the crank "knifed". I've read about this but never seen it. Sounds like they just reshape the leading edge of the crank so that when it hits the oil, it slices through easier than a blunt object (current shape of the crank).

    Opinions?
    Driving is the only way to go faster....
  • E30godz
    E30 Mastermind
    • Oct 2003
    • 1524

    #2
    im not sure what the benefit of moving the pin location is over shaving the piston tops a couple mm's.

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    • M-technik-3
      I waste 90% of my day here and all I got was this stupid title
      • Oct 2003
      • 18946

      #3
      Originally posted by E30godz
      im not sure what the benefit of moving the pin location is over shaving the piston tops a couple mm's.
      Wants to retain BMW pistons cumbustion chamber design, with iS head and a stroker crank. Not possible with is rods and crank.
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      • E30godz
        E30 Mastermind
        • Oct 2003
        • 1524

        #4
        whats the design of "i" piston tops?

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        • M-technik-3
          I waste 90% of my day here and all I got was this stupid title
          • Oct 2003
          • 18946

          #5
          differant than e pistons.
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          • modifiede30
            Forum Sponsor
            • Oct 2003
            • 1208

            #6
            The 'i' pistons have a concaved-dome top, with the dome positioned to maximize the energy of the combustion once it fires. The eta pistons are basically flat. If I shave the pistons 3mm, I'd loose some of the engineering that went into the shape. If I move the pins the same distance down, I'd acheive the same thing without screwing up the designs. Guess I'd have to use eta rods though, but that's not a big deal.
            Driving is the only way to go faster....

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            • ma7008o
              Noobie
              • Jul 2004
              • 5

              #7
              A solution is to use non 325i rods but any of the other stroter ones and reduce the block high by 2 mm.

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              • modifiede30
                Forum Sponsor
                • Oct 2003
                • 1208

                #8
                I did that on my current stroker, but would prefer to keep block specs in tact this time.
                Driving is the only way to go faster....

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                • rs4pro3
                  R3V Elite
                  • Oct 2003
                  • 5808

                  #9
                  Do what I was going to do with the Euro 325e pistons, even the standard Euro 325e pistons have a higher cr ratio then u.s pistons so you'll still have a decent compression ratio. Or you can go with the pre 5/85 525e 11:1 cr ratio pistons but they are very hard to come by.
                  85 325e 2.7 ITB'd stroker

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                  • modifiede30
                    Forum Sponsor
                    • Oct 2003
                    • 1208

                    #10
                    Can't get my hands on the Euro pistons so I'm going to do something that I know I won't get frustrated with.
                    Driving is the only way to go faster....

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                    • rs4pro3
                      R3V Elite
                      • Oct 2003
                      • 5808

                      #11
                      I'd shave the pistons then, when you measure off 3mm you really don't alter the shape of the piston any, all your doing is shaving off that one ridge.
                      85 325e 2.7 ITB'd stroker

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                      • M-technik-3
                        I waste 90% of my day here and all I got was this stupid title
                        • Oct 2003
                        • 18946

                        #12
                        If mine didn't get scuffed up by my daughter I would have gladly sold those. can't tell you if I can find more.
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                        • ma7008o
                          Noobie
                          • Jul 2004
                          • 5

                          #13
                          modifiede30: I am planning on taking 2 mm off the block as I think it is the easier and cheapest way to go. What results did you get? Why you do not what to do it again?

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                          • modifiede30
                            Forum Sponsor
                            • Oct 2003
                            • 1208

                            #14
                            The results are good, but I have the parts to build another one and want to go a different route to see which is better. I know shaving the pistons will produce greater compression so I'm betting its going to be a better stroker.
                            Driving is the only way to go faster....

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                            • trent

                              #15
                              Why not be a man and build a real motor? Fuck those heavy ass factory pistons. Pony up the money for a set of custom JEs or something similar and run the longer "i" rods. Or, be a real muthafuckin man, and have a custom set of longer than "i" Pauter rods to go along with the JE piston set.

                              The difference in smoothness and revability in doing just pistons is amazing.

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