difference between 325IS,&325Es

[xxx-Lost-Soul-xxx]

Ive done a few pages of research,but i cant not see what makes a 325Is worth so much more then a ES?

Both
sport seats,rear spoiler,front valance.

IS
14 weaves,plastic bumpers,deathbag.

Cant you swap a I head on a 88 E and make around 180 hp?

when the "is" 150ish?

So, if a person was gonna buy a 2 door what is the real reason for IS over ES?

[kronus]

Cant you swap a I head on a 88 E and make around 180 hp?

No. If you could, everyone would be doing it. 135ish is sort of realistic, with lots of $$ refreshing the block and the head.


Also, you're wrong about pretty much everything.

[dashboardmonkey]

Low rev, soft valve springs, shitty cam.

But the 88es is a seta iirc.

Andy

[xxx-Lost-Soul-xxx]

No. If you could, everyone would be doing it. 135ish is sort of realistic, with lots of $$ refreshing the block and the head.


Also, you're wrong about pretty much everything.

The guys on Mye28,have done it a few times. And they claim 180ish hp

what else am i wrong on?

[kronus]

Low rev, soft valve springs, shitty cam.

But the 88es is a seta iirc.

Andy

There is no 88es. FWIW, there's no 88e. All 88 models are either 325 or 325i/325is.

[xxx-Lost-Soul-xxx]

There was a 88 528e offered with a Different bottom end,and this is the only year it will work?

no 88 eta you sure? Google says yes.

?

[kronus]

The guys on Mye28,have done it a few times. And they claim 180ish hp

what else am i wrong on?

You're not going to get 180 hp out of a NA M20 without significant work.

It's more of a 'missing the point' than wrong.

The es is an early model. Early models are in general worth less, because they're older, have ugly bumpers, are more prone to rust, and have dumber engine management. Plus, the e has the undesirable motor, whereas an i/iS will have the more desirable i motor.

The seats, spoiler, valence shit is almost meaningless, since stock e30s are a minority these days. All that shit gets swapped around constantly.

In general, the better engine, more modern engine management, body facelift, and not being as old as all eS cars makes an iS worth more.

[kronus]

There was a 88 528e offered with a Different bottom end,and this is the only year it will work?

no 88 eta you sure? Google says yes.

?

The 88 was a 'super ETA', in that the engine was a sort of middle ground between an i and an e. All 88 6-cyl US models that were not the i or is were simply "325". The block is the same as a 325e (2.7 cyl), the pistons are unique, the head is its own special casting with single valve springs, medium-size intake and exhaust ports, and an economical cam.

[xxx-Lost-Soul-xxx]

The 88 was a 'super ETA', in that the engine was a sort of middle ground between an i and an e. All 88 6-cyl US models that were not the i or is were simply "325". The block is the same as a 325e (2.7 cyl), the pistons are unique, the head is its own special casting with single valve springs, medium-size intake and exhaust ports, and an economical cam.

This is what i was Talking about ONLY 88 model's.
will the I head on this block hit the 180hp?

You bring up, that shit gets moved around all the time.
Seats,spoilers,and etc.

why not buy a E or es coupe and just buy this stuff and throw it in?

IM NOT ARGUING with you, im just curious.

[kronus]

This is what i was Talking about ONLY 88 model's.
will the I head on this block hit the 180hp?

You bring up, that shit gets moved around all the time.
Seats,spoilers,and etc.

why not buy a E or es coupe and just buy this stuff and throw it in?

IM NOT ARGUING with you, im just curious.

If you were arguing with me, I'd be arguing.

I'm not sure what you're trying to accomplish. There is no '88 eS. The generic 2.7i stroker is made from an eta block, seta pistons, and an i head. It does not get near 180 hp.


oh wow I just noticed that I hit 1000 posts in this thread.

[xxx-Lost-Soul-xxx]

oK, Cool as long as were on the same page.
Thanks for clearing up those.

I said arguing because, Ive noted especially on mye28 when you question somone.
people get there pantys in a twist.

thanks again :)

[kronus]

No prob ;)

Here when you question someone they generally google your username and try to find your profiles on bestiality sites.

I probably came off as angry/annoyed/arguing in my first reply because I've had a generally shitty Monday.

[xxx-Lost-Soul-xxx]

its only been 45 minutes into monday,sorry to hear about that.

I didnt take the post as you being pissy at all :)
if someone goes on google and looks for me, Good luck on that
lol

[Aptyp]

There's another trade-off. Facelifts tend to rust.

With so many people doing engine swaps, and so many kits available, it doesn't even matter.

Although there are a lot less eS than iS, eS was only in production for one year. iS was out for 5.

[SpecM]

Whoa now...

-an "i" head on a 84-87 "e" is a waste of time, 140 crank hp tops

-BUT an "i" head on an '88 super-eta (NOT an 325es) and a chip WILL net about 175-180 crank hp (thats only 7-12hp more than a 2.5, ya know...) You have to use the "i" head, intake manifold, injectors, TB, afm and dme.

To the OP: get a clean e30 that you like, and swap all the other stuff around later