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  • carlb
    Grease Monkey
    • Feb 2011
    • 359

    #16
    I just noticed that the spindle in the first pic has the tops of the brake mounts ground down. So, I'm thinking these are non-M spindles and that mod allowed the M brakes to bolt right up.
    1985 M635csi Black on Buffalo
    1985 535is Zinno on Black
    1985 M635csi White on Pacific Blue
    1988 M3 Lachssilber on Black (sold)
    1987 M3 Zinno on Black (totaled)

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    • bmwmech1
      E30 Enthusiast
      • Jun 2010
      • 1075

      #17
      Look at the picture of the 2 control arms... see how the new arm has the center of the ball joint hole pushed forward more than the old arm? That new arm is a legit M3 arm that you want, the other looks to just be a standard arm. The spindle pictures tell the same kind of story... check out the centerline of the balljoint hole vs. the lower rear strut mounting hole. On the spindle that was on your car, the hole centerlines match up, on the new spindle they do not. The differences are subtle, but they do matter when you're looking at where the wheel sits in relationship to the wheel opening, once everything is bolted together. At least now you know where your problem lies... change it around when you have time.

      Garey


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      • carlb
        Grease Monkey
        • Feb 2011
        • 359

        #18
        Thanks. Will change out and report back.
        1985 M635csi Black on Buffalo
        1985 535is Zinno on Black
        1985 M635csi White on Pacific Blue
        1988 M3 Lachssilber on Black (sold)
        1987 M3 Zinno on Black (totaled)

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        • carlb
          Grease Monkey
          • Feb 2011
          • 359

          #19
          So, where the heck does one find a 46mm socket? No luck at any auto store or sears.

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          1985 M635csi Black on Buffalo
          1985 535is Zinno on Black
          1985 M635csi White on Pacific Blue
          1988 M3 Lachssilber on Black (sold)
          1987 M3 Zinno on Black (totaled)

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          • bmwmech1
            E30 Enthusiast
            • Jun 2010
            • 1075

            #20
            Originally posted by carlb
            So, where the heck does one find a 46mm socket? No luck at any auto store or sears.

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            Snap On, Mac, etc. I don't know if Harbor Freight carries a set with one that size, but if they do, the set may be cheaper than a single socket from Snap On, lol. I know mine was around $60-70 from Snap On, so it might be worth looking into...

            Garey


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            • carlb
              Grease Monkey
              • Feb 2011
              • 359

              #21
              Thanks. I'll check it out. That's a big-ass fracking nut. Tool search keeps slowing my roll!

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              1985 M635csi Black on Buffalo
              1985 535is Zinno on Black
              1985 M635csi White on Pacific Blue
              1988 M3 Lachssilber on Black (sold)
              1987 M3 Zinno on Black (totaled)

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              • bmwmech1
                E30 Enthusiast
                • Jun 2010
                • 1075

                #22
                Originally posted by carlb
                Thanks. I'll check it out. That's a big-ass fracking nut. Tool search keeps slowing my roll!

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                Yeah, that's the only thing I use that 46mm socket for... E36, E34, E32, E46 front hubs, but when you need it, you need it...

                Garey


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                • carlb
                  Grease Monkey
                  • Feb 2011
                  • 359

                  #23
                  Is the only way to get the axle nut off is to have someone stomp on the brakes while you pull like hell on a pry bar?
                  1985 M635csi Black on Buffalo
                  1985 535is Zinno on Black
                  1985 M635csi White on Pacific Blue
                  1988 M3 Lachssilber on Black (sold)
                  1987 M3 Zinno on Black (totaled)

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                  • MR 325
                    Moderator
                    • Oct 2003
                    • 37825

                    #24
                    Impact is what I prefer. ;)
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                    • accident
                      R3V OG
                      • Sep 2008
                      • 7303

                      #25
                      Originally posted by MR 325
                      Impact is what I prefer. ;)
                      This. If you're going to be working on your own car regularly, invest in a cordless electric impact gun. They're fucking awesome.

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                      • carlb
                        Grease Monkey
                        • Feb 2011
                        • 359

                        #26
                        Am I the only one who can't get the rotor bolts off. They are both seized. I've put plenty of liquid wrench on them. Waited a long time. They won't budge. The passenger side one is now stripped. And, I'm thoroughly frustrated as if it's not one thing, it's another.

                        Thought about replacing the whole hub/wheel bearing assembly and new rotors and just trashing the whole lot. But, it seems there's that dust shield thing that is apparently more than just a dust shield between the spindle and the wheel bearing hub.

                        Any advice? Thx.
                        1985 M635csi Black on Buffalo
                        1985 535is Zinno on Black
                        1985 M635csi White on Pacific Blue
                        1988 M3 Lachssilber on Black (sold)
                        1987 M3 Zinno on Black (totaled)

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                        • Roysneon
                          R3V Elite
                          • Apr 2010
                          • 4505

                          #27
                          Drill them out.
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                          • carlb
                            Grease Monkey
                            • Feb 2011
                            • 359

                            #28
                            LOL. I figured out I can change the bearing/wheel assembly + rotors together with no problems. Don't know why I didn't just give that a try yesterday. But, on the way back from buying some better drill bits it hit me as an obvious thing to try. Doh!

                            I'm just going to replace the bearings anyway since I'm in there and they will at this point be the only item that I haven't replaced (save the M3 brake calipers) in my front suspension. So, it just make sense to get that done too.

                            This suspension on this car has been fubar'd since the beginning. I'm hoping that - after replacing virtually all of it - that I'm good to go and I can drive the heck out of the car until my engine swap gets going <fingers crossed>
                            1985 M635csi Black on Buffalo
                            1985 535is Zinno on Black
                            1985 M635csi White on Pacific Blue
                            1988 M3 Lachssilber on Black (sold)
                            1987 M3 Zinno on Black (totaled)

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                            • yanal
                              Wrencher
                              • Jun 2011
                              • 248

                              #29
                              Thanks for the detailed answer Garey, I have a proper setup in my car using all of the correct parts and the wheels sit perfectly, so hopefully I wouldn't have a problem when I switch to a shorter housings.

                              OP I'd use screws extractor, they're around $10 from Sears and works perfectly.
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                              • jeffmn8
                                Wrencher
                                • Jul 2010
                                • 217

                                #30
                                Originally posted by yanal
                                Thanks for the detailed answer Garey, I have a proper setup in my car using all of the correct parts and the wheels sit perfectly, so hopefully I wouldn't have a problem when I switch to a shorter housings.

                                OP I'd use screws extractor, they're around $10 from Sears and works perfectly.
                                You shouldn't have an issue. I have a full e36 m3 setup with tree house lollipops and e36 GCs with shortened housings.

                                Wheels are almost perfectly centered.
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