can is use 318ti brakes?

[gazellebeigem3]

dont understand why not, but im wonderin

[Jordan]

Yes. But why would you remove stock 5lug in favor of the worst option?

[gazellebeigem3]

Yes. But why would you remove stock 5lug in favor of the worst option?

well heres my situation. At my disposal i have the whole ti rear subframe w/calipers rotor etc. and e36 325is calipers rotors etc. (front and rear) what would be the most favorable combo of parts or do i have the option?


ahahaha just realizes something, i dont have an m3..... im converting a 4lug to 5

[Jordan]

ok.. then why do you have such a name?

Don't use e36 front suspension parts to convert.

Go over the method I used to convert, it is the best of the best IMO.

5 lug, big brakes, and most important.. proper geometry.

[gazellebeigem3]

Im talking about the rear only. Im wondering if there is a difference between the ti rotors/calipers and the is rotors/calipers. I looked over your info but it sounds like alot of parts are zm3 specific.

[Jordan]

All of my rear parts are MZ3 specifc. Thats the point.

MZ3 is your only option if you want huge vented rear rotors.

Everything else is fairly small, and solid.

Sizes for rear rotors:

e30 325i.......258x10mm
e30 M3.........284x10mm
e36 318Ti.....272x10mm
e36 325i.......280x10mm
Z3.(all).........272x10mm
e36 M3.........312x20mm
M-Roadster...312x20mm

[puusitalo]

dont understand why not, but im wonderin

Yes you can, but then your rear discs are 272x10. Still a direct bolt-on (well atleast mostly).

Petteri

[puusitalo]

dont understand why not, but im wonderin

Yes you can, but then your rear discs are 272x10. Still a direct bolt-on (well atleast mostly). It will still be better compared to stock size 258x10.

Petteri

[Jordan]

wow. Way to read and repost my posts.

[puusitalo]

wow. Way to read and repost my posts.

If this was reply to my post, then i perhaps have to explain my point little better: It's not necessary to have the biggest available to be better than stock. 318ti brakes are an upgrade to E30 system, both front and rear and both are doable. If parts are there, then why pass the opportunity because "you could go bigger" ?
I'd say if you are just after better brakes then by better brakes:2-piece rotors, 4 or 6 pot calibers and you're set. But if main target is to use 5x120 wheels, better brakes are a bonus (using even 318ti/325is parts).

Petteri

[Jason89i]

Im talking about the rear only. Im wondering if there is a difference between the ti rotors/calipers and the is rotors/calipers. .

the "ti" has different rotors and calipers. it does not share them with the "i". i have had no problems with my e30m50 at the track running the smaller non-m e36 brakes. but, i do run a track pad. jason

[Addissimo]

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[gazellebeigem3]

just push the hub out, replace the rear bearings, and replace your old 4 lug hub with an mz3 hub, then you can use m3/mz3 rotors and calipers.

can you do the same with the front? I already have the ti trailing arms..got em local for 200 bucks complete with brakes

[Jordan]

just push the hub out, replace the rear bearings, and replace your old 4 lug hub with an mz3 hub, then you can use m3/mz3 rotors and calipers.

Um. No, that is impossible.

The e30 M3 wheel hub/bearing will press into a non-m trailing arm.

MZ3 wheel hub bore is huge. The wheel bearing is roughly twice the diameter of the e30 one.

Assuming that was possible (which it isnt) the stock ebrake hardware would not work. Even at maxium travel it would be no where near the drum.

the backing plate would also need to be removed to clear the caliper. Doing so would eliminate the ebrake entirely.

Last but not least the MZ3 caliper will not bolt onto the non-m arm, nor would it be positioned out far enough to actually sit in the rotor if it did bolt on.

Don't spread misinformation.

[Jordan]

The e30 M3 spindle is much larger then the non m. You cannot just slap a wheel hub assembly on the front.

If it was as easy as $500 worth of new hub assemblies don't you think everyone would have 5lug?