Nasieg 5 lug installed - tips/pearls

[ApexGoblin]

Just an FYI for everyone reading this thread, changing the master cylinder does ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO THE BRAKE BIAS.

seriously a master cylinder does not change brake bias what it DOES change is the input force required. So going with a larger master cylinder will require MORE INPUT for the same CLAMPING OUTPUT. Basically this means for example you push on the pedal with 50lbs of force with the stock master cylinder and the brake caliper squeezes with 500 PSI (not real numbers just for explanation) now you increase to a larger master cylinder and you push on the pedal with the same 50 lbs of force, now your output psi is only 425 PSI. So in order to achieve the same clamping force of 500 you have to INCREASE your input lbs to say 60 lbs (again rough numbers), this means you have to push harder on the pedal to achieve the same amount of braking.... this is where you get the FIRMER braking comments.

In a stress driving situation (racing/spirited driving) this can be desirable as the tendency is to increase the force with your leg when the adrenaline is pumping and if the pedal is too light you can just lock everything up quickly and seemingly have no brake "feel".

[pandaboo911]

Nasieg 5 lug installed - tips/pearls

That's only partly correct. Most master cylinders have two different sized Pistons for front/rear. If the ratio between the chambers changes, your bias will be affected.

For example early 318/325e e30s use a single diameter MC because the drum brakes require less line pressure to produce the same braking force as disks. Later e30s use I think a 21mm front / 19mm rear MC.

If you used an early MC on late brakes your rear braking force would be greatly decreased

[Djmack]

I can see how the E46 M3 front line could work, its got the length and is the same shape and the e39 rear line. Interesting.

So, i've already installed all my front stuff.. but because the back is more complicated... and the issue with the brake line, i've been waiting a few weeks for a response on this thread. still nothing.

So, can someone confirm or deny the use of e46m3 front lines for the rear brake setup of this swap? It seems that there's no solid "yes or no" info anywhere.

[Jb325is]

It will work but it's not ideal, they are too long. I ran them on my car though with this setup.

EDIT: Looks like I used e30 front lines on the rear and e46 m3 lines on the front

[peterz]

Sorry for a little bit of a bump here guys... about to install the front part of the kit on my struts, and the hub nut doesn't wind down on the thread enough to be able to lock it into place (by making a tab by hitting the thin steel wall). Obviously you can't machine back the inner spacer or the hub nut as they wouldn't meet flush inside the e36 hub...

What have people done about this to lock the hub nut in place?

Cheers!

Edit: Think I've figured this out, removing the E30 bearing dust cover allows it to go all the way down!

[Zacharilla]

I have one of the original complete kits. I have put thousands of miles on it through 4 states and it works great. Emergency stops yielded surprising results that almost got me rear ended in Las Vegas lol...

The rear brake lines are longer than stock and the kit came with new ones. What I would do is measure the distance needed with string and just contact a brake line place and have them make you a set. I would go measure for you, but my car is in body shop getting MTech2 body kit right now.

I do have original install manual somewhere if anyone has any questions.

[dsm2002]

Is there a rotor and caliper option for this kit to fit under 15" wheels? Possibly looking at E30 M3 rear hubs so advice on matching brake and caliper options on the rear appreciated.

[Blitzwaffen221]

nasieg

Hi im building a 84 bmw e30 325e and im looking for the nasieg 5 lug kit, do you know where I can buy it?

[gtarwiz]

Does anyone know the size of the screws needed to take the front dust caps off covering the nuts?