my 5 lug

[pawi30]

definitly interested...anyone in jersey that would be able to help install these?

[Mr Deagle]

Not to be "that guy", but did you happen to get a set made this weekend?

No, i have way too much crap going on (engines to build/tune) to work on these right now, but at least one will get finished....for my car :)

[BMW2JZ]

What have you done to engage sufficient thread to lock the sleeve and hub into the E30 stub axle?

I did this a few years back with the sleeve, offseting the Hub out 8mm which was enough so that I could use 315x28mm E36 M3 rotors on the front and using a caliper adaptor bracket nissan 4-spot alloy calipers.

I also had a custom nut machined up so that you could get full engagement of the stub thread so as to allow the whole system to be sufficiently held in place.

Looking at your first picture, it appears you only have the 1-2 thread engagement afforded by the std nut when used with the E36 hubs.

[Mr Deagle]

The first picture is a mock up, and there is full thread engagement, but not enough to use the lock ring part of the nut

no pieces have been made yet

[dj2xrated]

so ..im interested also. i also learned that i will do a 5lug (rear) conversion sooner than i thought! whoo hoo for you smart tooly guys.
im learnin

so yea get some pics up patna i think thats all we need to understand what you are really doing. im stil kinda of confused ....lol i studied those conversion post and read mr fonzworth BEntley.

[JasonC]

dj2xrated, He's been banned. So you won't see any pictures soon.

[nmlss2006]

Bringing this thread back up... has anyone thought any more about this idea?
If E36 M3 hubs were used, would there be any reason for the corresponding caliper not to fit, with a custom carrier?
One could then do the same thing with the rear and solve all the '5 lug' swap issues.
I've been toying with various ways to get this done and so far this seems to be the path of least resistance. Ideas?

[xLibelle]

yeah, just avoid this route. search the other 5-lug swap methods and its easy and cheap enough to do it like that.
you want to talk manufacturing, take on the fronts only and do it yourself. this thread topic is burnt out.

[nmlss2006]

Oh I have done it the other ways. One of them entailed getting the whole M3 while I was at it. Works very nicely, very few swap issues :).
But by nature I automatically go for the 'it can't be done that way' solutions.
Since, in all reality, fitting other hubs to E30 spindles is ludicrously easy and I happen to have access to a significant amount of CNC machinery, I thought I'd give it a shot. For the rears, you just shove in E30 M3 hubs, which you can press easily, and build one of those 'behind the rotor' spacers.
Going violently OT, I was wondering if there was a way, having done this, to emulate the 300mm.de kit... with 996 TT brake kits from mov'it. That would give you enough braking power to lock up the fronts at 150MPH with 235/40-17 RE01-Rs installed, I suspect. For about two weeks straight.

[Farbin Kaiber]

See BeirBrennere30...

[Teaguer]

See BeirBrennere30...

His setup is a Movit kit .....not a homebrew using the same calipers .


Spend $$ where it counts FTW !!

[xLibelle]

Spend $$ where it counts FTW !!

yeah.... uhm, i suppose... your cars confuse me :rofl:



i actually kinda dig the all go and completely NO show

[Teaguer]

and completely NO show

Hey ! Watch it ! :D

[nmlss2006]

I don't see the difference between 'homebrew' and Mov'it. The kits were designed by Brembo for Porsche. Mov'it sells them to others. We're trying, hypothetically, to do the same thing.
Or perhaps I misunderstood?
There are, in any case, two options, depending basically on what one can obtain from SKF (who makes the wheel bearings for most german cars).
One is to actually use a sleeve, an E30 M3 bearing and an adapter plate between the hub and whatever rotor is chosen.
The other option is to actually take apart a regular E30 bearing and fabricate the outer hub with an appropriate plate, etc. This would possibly mean more CNC work and it would tie the hub to a specific rotor configuration, but it would make for a cleaner solution and it would enable us to custom fit the hub to the standard E30 ABS ring.
Any opinions would be appreciated. I already went the E30 M3 full setup + SBI-alike spacers. There has to be a better - cheaper, cleaner - way.

[SA E30]

This sleeve interests me... I know the best way would be to get M3 struts, and that is my ideal path, but here in South Africa they are rarer than chickens teeth, as we only had just over 500 cars built with M3 suspension in SA.

I mean it's taken me just over 6 months to get hold of M3 rear hubs, and I want to get my race car on the go, and suspension and brakes are the only things holding me up.