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  • BigFurryWhale
    Wrencher
    • Jun 2006
    • 282

    #1

    How bad are these bushings?

    So I've been struggling with a clunking, banging sound coming from my rear suspension, and I decided to investigate. This is what I found

    I think you call this the sway bar bushing (correct me if I'm wrong). As you can see, the rubber is cracked, but it's still there. Could this be causing a noise?



    Additionally, the bushings located in the 2 spots circled are in similar, but slightly better condition. What do you call these ones? Are these the subframe bushings?




    Any input appreciated.
  • sticksdaman
    R3VLimited
    • Apr 2005
    • 2987

    #2
    yea those are the rsms (rear subframe bushings) they are a bitch to replace

    but if they look like that first one then id replace them asap that thing is beat
    Originally posted by ebelements
    Also, for those who don't know, negative camber is the greatest thing since sliced bread(panera). Even tire wear is for city busses and the elderly.

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    • asubimmer
      R3V OG
      • Jul 2004
      • 6482

      #3
      no those are NOT rear subframe bushings sticks. Those would be the trailing arm bushings...

      If you replace those you better change the rear subframe bushings also while its out. You pretty much have to take out the subframe to get the trailing arms off and back on.
      ///Alpinweiß II 24v 91' 318is, Alpinweiß III 99' 323i, 04' Yamaha R6 SE for sale, 00' VW GTi, 83' El Camino BURNED, 01' P71sold, 92' Miatasold

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      • BigFurryWhale
        Wrencher
        • Jun 2006
        • 282

        #4
        Originally posted by sticksdaman
        yea those are the rsms (rear subframe bushings) they are a bitch to replace

        but if they look like that first one then id replace them asap that thing is beat
        So both of the red circled things are the subframe bushings? I'm not really planning on doing this job myself, as my abilities and tools are limited. Plus, it doesn't look fun at all.

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        • BigFurryWhale
          Wrencher
          • Jun 2006
          • 282

          #5
          Originally posted by asubimmer
          no those are NOT rear subframe bushings sticks. Those would be the trailing arm bushings...

          If you replace those you better change the rear subframe bushings also while its out. You pretty much have to take out the subframe to get the trailing arms off and back on.
          Where abouts are the subframe bushings then? What's considered a good price for subframe bushings/trailing arm/sway bar bushing.

          Would a bushing in this condition cause clunking?

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          • sticksdaman
            R3VLimited
            • Apr 2005
            • 2987

            #6
            oops my bad asubimmer is right

            depends on how shot they are? do you hear the clunking on bumps? when turning?
            Originally posted by ebelements
            Also, for those who don't know, negative camber is the greatest thing since sliced bread(panera). Even tire wear is for city busses and the elderly.

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            • asubimmer
              R3V OG
              • Jul 2004
              • 6482

              #7
              furry the subframe ones are the two on the ends of the subframe. The ones w/ HUGE bolts that bolt the subframe to the body.
              ///Alpinweiß II 24v 91' 318is, Alpinweiß III 99' 323i, 04' Yamaha R6 SE for sale, 00' VW GTi, 83' El Camino BURNED, 01' P71sold, 92' Miatasold

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              • BigFurryWhale
                Wrencher
                • Jun 2006
                • 282

                #8
                Originally posted by asubimmer
                furry the subframe ones are the two on the ends of the subframe. The ones w/ HUGE bolts that bolt the subframe to the body.

                Hmm... I'm having some trouble picturing this... I think I'm going to get it all done at the same time and save some cash. What's an average price for the labor in changing rear subframe/trailing arm bushings?

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                • sticksdaman
                  R3VLimited
                  • Apr 2005
                  • 2987

                  #9
                  shiiiit my mechanic told me it was gunna run me about 450 to get TAs and subframe bushings replaced and thats after buying the parts
                  Originally posted by ebelements
                  Also, for those who don't know, negative camber is the greatest thing since sliced bread(panera). Even tire wear is for city busses and the elderly.

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                  • Teaguer
                    R3V OG
                    • Sep 2004
                    • 6167

                    #10
                    Those anti-roll bar links look pretty old but they are definitely not causing any noise .

                    I would suggest that rather than taking your car to a shop and saying "replace this, this and this" , you should drop it off and have them locate the clunking sound .

                    That way they can locate the source and replace whats needed to remedy the issue rather than replacing what you tell them and there is still the chance that the noise will be there .

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                    • golde30
                      R3V OG
                      • Nov 2003
                      • 11464

                      #11
                      Originally posted by sticksdaman
                      shiiiit my mechanic told me it was gunna run me about 450 to get TAs and subframe bushings replaced and thats after buying the parts
                      that sounds about rite. i have been quoted around there 2x by different mechanics....im probably going to just take it on myself while im swapping my motor. doesnt look fun, but its gotta get done.
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                      • Vedubin01
                        R3V Elite
                        • Jun 2006
                        • 5852

                        #12
                        that is true but its better just to replace everything while your there. The parts are not going to run you much more.
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                        • FredK
                          R3V OG
                          • Oct 2003
                          • 14747

                          #13
                          Originally posted by BigFurryWhale
                          Plus, it doesn't look fun at all.
                          Yes, I can guarantee you this is not fun. Tooth extraction seems like gumdrops and rainbows in comparison.

                          It is pretty labor intensive, so $450 is not a bad price at all.

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                          • BigFurryWhale
                            Wrencher
                            • Jun 2006
                            • 282

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Teaguer
                            Those anti-roll bar links look pretty old but they are definitely not causing any noise .

                            I would suggest that rather than taking your car to a shop and saying "replace this, this and this" , you should drop it off and have them locate the clunking sound .

                            That way they can locate the source and replace whats needed to remedy the issue rather than replacing what you tell them and there is still the chance that the noise will be there .

                            If my trailing arm bushings or subframe bushings are in similar condition, could they be causing the noise?

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