track/ street brake setup

[kylebes1]

I want to upgrade my brakes all around and get new wheels all at the same time. What do you guys recommend for a daily driver that will see the track often?

[trent]

Re: track/ street brake setup

I want to upgrade my brakes all around and get new wheels all at the same time. What do you guys recommend for a daily driver that will see the track often?

IIRC you had a 84 318.

Did you upgrade to the larger late style front rotors? did you upgrade to rear disk?

If so, then run hawk blues front and rear. You will be fine and out break a lot of cars.

[kylebes1]

i have 1984 318i brakes right now. Got a deal on cross drilled rotors so i replaced my warped ones with those for now. so I will be starting for scratch.

So u think i could just got to say, 325is brakes all around and some good pads and be fine?

what aobut like slotted rotors? I am not getting CD again, i know hear they crack.

[Jarvis]

iwhat aobut like slotted rotors?

ATE power discs. Not too much more than the plain OEM rotors, not a waste of extra $$ like drilled rotors (at least the drilled ones available for stock-size E30 brakes).
A lot of places sell them. I got mine from Turner in a brake kit.

[M-technik-3]

My Buddy did Audi A8 brakes with TT calipers on Saturday. Talk about huge 312 mm in 15" wheels. Of course we are talking about an UrQ thou. But they use girling calipers and ate units.

[trent]

i have 1984 318i brakes right now. Got a deal on cross drilled rotors so i replaced my warped ones with those for now. so I will be starting for scratch.

So u think i could just got to say, 325is brakes all around and some good pads and be fine?

what aobut like slotted rotors? I am not getting CD again, i know hear they crack.

Yes, convert to the larger disks in front and the rear disks. Then just run a ballsy pad.

Have you weighed your 318 with the m50 in it?

[M-technik-3]

My 87 325is weighed 2790 with a half of a tank with the M50.

[Jason89i]

Re: track/ street brake setup

[quote="trent"]

If so, then run hawk blues front and rear. You will be fine and out break a lot of cars.

hawk blues are AWESOME on the track. however they only make the fronts for the e30. they are NOT recommended for street use. terrible when cold, dust will fuse to wheel finish when introduced to moisture, last less than a month on the street. i switch my pads to hawk blues before each event.

i too would like an answer to a good street pad. ive never found a little-dust street pad that i liked........bolting up the e36 brakes and pondering the ebc greens.....any thoughts. cheers

[rwh11385]

iwhat aobut like slotted rotors?

ATE power discs. Not too much more than the plain OEM rotors, not a waste of extra $$ like drilled rotors (at least the drilled ones available for stock-size E30 brakes).
A lot of places sell them. I got mine from Turner in a brake kit.

http://www.eurowebparts.com/default.asp?url=epcstart.epc?make=BMW

N1000-27776 - ATE Power Disc - $39.08
325i fitment, but good deal.

[kylebes1]

Should I just get the $12 seal kit for the calipers or should I get rebuilt calipers? I suppose I will just pull the entire front brake setup off a 325is and replace the rotors with ATE and pull the semitrailing arms off one as well.

[trent]

Re: track/ street brake setup

[quote="Jason89i"]

If so, then run hawk blues front and rear. You will be fine and out break a lot of cars.

hawk blues are AWESOME on the track. however they only make the fronts for the e30. they are NOT recommended for street use. terrible when cold, dust will fuse to wheel finish when introduced to moisture, last less than a month on the street. i switch my pads to hawk blues before each event.

i too would like an answer to a good street pad. ive never found a little-dust street pad that i liked........bolting up the e36 brakes and pondering the ebc greens.....any thoughts. cheers

hmmm. i have a set of hawk blues for the rear :)

[Jason89i]

Re: track/ street brake setup

[quote="trent"][quote="Jason89i"][quote="trent"]

hmmm. i have a set of hawk blues for the rear :)

Are you sure?? Where did you get them. Ive run Hawk for a long time, tried alot of the compounds, but Hawk does not make ANY rear application for the e30 318-325 (4-lug). Bimmerworld, Tirerack (call in only), TCkline, Livermore......no-one i know, but im definately up to signing on with a new vendor. well, actually it really doesnt matter as im headed into e36 f/r brakes later this month.

check out these guys, nice application chart for hawk products.

http://www.livermoreperformance.com/bmw_brake_pads.html#Hawk

[trent]

Re: track/ street brake setup

Are you sure?? Where did you get them. Ive run Hawk for a long time, tried alot of the compounds, but Hawk does not make ANY rear application for the e30 318-325 (4-lug). Bimmerworld, Tirerack (call in only), TCkline, Livermore......no-one i know, but im definately up to signing on with a new vendor. well, actually it really doesnt matter as im headed into e36 f/r brakes later this month.

Yes, bought them from Pro Parts / Tri-point engineering a few years back.

Part # HB227E.630

[kylebes1]

So here is what I am gonna buy when my bonus check come in:

Front: 325is brake calipers (used and resealed??), and hangers. ATE power rotors, and HAWK blue pads, or Mintex.

Rear: 325is Semitrailing arms, with all the attached compontents, ATE rotors and HAWK blues or Mintex pads.

I suppose I will go ahead and install an antisway bar in back and m3 links for the front, new CAs and Treehouse bushings.


Ok if all that looks good what can I do about my drum biased master cylinder, I would hate to replace it, it is brand new. I suppose I could get an adjuster thingy, or some thing.

[Skafrog]

are you going to the track with your brake setup?
Let me reinforce that running track pads on the street is NOT a good idea. Have fun using your e-brake to slow down when the temp is below 50 degrees.
If you are going to be tracking, just get the solid face rotors, those are the best for the track, ATE power discs apparently also have cracking problems.
If you are going for a sweet brake setup, the pads are the most important.
Also, grab some SS lines and Super Blue fluid.
It seems the 25mm master cylinder is controversial, but I plan on running one when I swap in the m50; it makes the pedal stiffer.

Everythig else looks sweet. I am running a stock (90 325) front bar with m3 links and an m3 rear bar, and I still have understeer.
If you are going to be swapping trailing arms, get the RTRS Adj. Trailing arm bushings, and their subframe bushings (they make the diff VERY loud though). If you dont want to deafen yourself, the powerflex purple subframe bushings are the way to go.

Oh, and the most important of all.
BRAKE DUCTS.
Run backing plates, and get air onto the brakes. This is the best way to reduce fade, etc...