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  • Pussy30
    Banned
    • Feb 2011
    • 463

    #1

    Who here does their own alignment?

    Ever since I bought this car as a project from the PO it has never got an alignment. I have a bunchhhh of toe in that its almost so bad you can help but say "both your front tires are pointing in". Should I grab a tape measure and try my hand at it or should I take it in to the pro's?


    Thanks!
  • dirty thirty
    Grease Monkey
    • Feb 2009
    • 372

    #2
    Take it to a pro but if you don't have any cash do as you please! Wouldn't hurt Tory the tape measure would like to see how it turns out.


    Just out trying to build some boost !!
    Stroked and blown 328i @ 15psi

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    • jlevie
      R3V OG
      • Nov 2006
      • 13530

      #3
      Since the only thing you can adjust of a stock E30 is front toe, it is pretty easy to do an alignment yourself. On a street car I'd aim for 1/16-3/32" of total toe in. You need toe plates to get accurate measurements, but they can be nothing more than a couple of pieces of plywood about 6" tall.
      The car makes it possible, but the driver makes it happen.
      Jim Levie, Huntsville, AL

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      • nrubenstein
        No R3VLimiter
        • Feb 2009
        • 3148

        #4
        Yes, toe plates are very convenient. Even on cars with real suspensions, I still use toe plates to determine if I need to set the strings up.
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        • Pussy30
          Banned
          • Feb 2011
          • 463

          #5
          Thanks guys. Yeah I was getting some really bad tire wear when I finnaly got fresh tires. At first I thought it was the positive camber (which also was a problem) from the 5 lug conversion without proper camber plates. But then I realized it was the toe. Anyone have a write up on the proper way to adjust it?

          Thanks again.

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          • Bearmw
            E30 Fanatic
            • Aug 2010
            • 1323

            #6
            Not sure what the 6" high plywood entails. Raise just the front 6" and the measure?
            Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience. -Mark Twain

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            • bimmerteck
              Mod Crazy
              • Mar 2009
              • 762

              #7
              I set the suspension up on the scales first and then align them using strings and a camber gauge. I found some pics of home alignment setups like I use in the thread below.

              I know allot of folks do this but wanted to know what methods/tools you use. I have seen the smart string thing but also so levels etc. Show me what

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              • bimmerteck
                Mod Crazy
                • Mar 2009
                • 762

                #8
                Originally posted by Bearmw
                Not sure what the 6" high plywood entails. Raise just the front 6" and the measure?
                think 4 6"x6" pieces of 3/8" plywood,1 placed under each tire. Just enough to allow the tire to move as adjustments are made.

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                • nrubenstein
                  No R3VLimiter
                  • Feb 2009
                  • 3148

                  #9
                  Originally posted by bimmerteck
                  think 4 6"x6" pieces of 3/8" plywood,1 placed under each tire. Just enough to allow the tire to move as adjustments are made.
                  Oy. No, not at all. That would be a turn plate.

                  These are toe plates:
                  http://www.amazon.com/Longacre-Toe-P.../dp/B000VAOHB2

                  And you can easily make your own with some plywood, although you'll probably give up a little precision.
                  2006 GMC Sierra 2500HD 4WD LBZ/Allison
                  2002 BMW M3 Alpinweiß/Black
                  1999 323i GTS2 Alpinweiß
                  1995 M3 Dakargelb/Black
                  - S50B32/S6S420G/3.91
                  1990 325is Brilliantrot/Tan
                  1989 M3 Alpinweiß/Black

                  Hers: 1996 Porsche 911 Turbo Black/Black
                  Hers: 1988 325iX Coupe Diamantschwartz/Black 5spd

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                  • M-technik-3
                    I waste 90% of my day here and all I got was this stupid title
                    • Oct 2003
                    • 18946

                    #10
                    Originally posted by jlevie
                    Since the only thing you can adjust of a stock E30 is front toe, it is pretty easy to do an alignment yourself. On a street car I'd aim for 1/16-3/32" of total toe in. You need toe plates to get accurate measurements, but they can be nothing more than a couple of pieces of plywood about 6" tall.
                    It's E36 5 lug conversion guys. I have some older IE plates that will be for sale soon.
                    https://www.facebook.com/BentOverRacing

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                    • bimmerteck
                      Mod Crazy
                      • Mar 2009
                      • 762

                      #11
                      Sorry I may have the terminology mixed up it's been I while since I was officially "taught" to align vehicles and I only do mine once a year or so unless I'm doing suspension work.

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                      • nrubenstein
                        No R3VLimiter
                        • Feb 2009
                        • 3148

                        #12
                        Originally posted by M-technik-3
                        It's E36 5 lug conversion guys. I have some older IE plates that will be for sale soon.
                        What does 5-lug conversion have to do with anything here? Even if you mean that he has one, it changes absolutely nothing. Unless of course, he has welded in E36 trailing arms (and no, Z3 doesn't count).
                        2006 GMC Sierra 2500HD 4WD LBZ/Allison
                        2002 BMW M3 Alpinweiß/Black
                        1999 323i GTS2 Alpinweiß
                        1995 M3 Dakargelb/Black
                        - S50B32/S6S420G/3.91
                        1990 325is Brilliantrot/Tan
                        1989 M3 Alpinweiß/Black

                        Hers: 1996 Porsche 911 Turbo Black/Black
                        Hers: 1988 325iX Coupe Diamantschwartz/Black 5spd

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                        • nrubenstein
                          No R3VLimiter
                          • Feb 2009
                          • 3148

                          #13
                          Originally posted by bimmerteck
                          Sorry I may have the terminology mixed up it's been I while since I was officially "taught" to align vehicles and I only do mine once a year or so unless I'm doing suspension work.
                          On a stock E30, since all you can really adjust is front toe, toe plates suffice. It's easier to get the wheel centered by a little trial and error than it is to set up the strings.
                          2006 GMC Sierra 2500HD 4WD LBZ/Allison
                          2002 BMW M3 Alpinweiß/Black
                          1999 323i GTS2 Alpinweiß
                          1995 M3 Dakargelb/Black
                          - S50B32/S6S420G/3.91
                          1990 325is Brilliantrot/Tan
                          1989 M3 Alpinweiß/Black

                          Hers: 1996 Porsche 911 Turbo Black/Black
                          Hers: 1988 325iX Coupe Diamantschwartz/Black 5spd

                          sigpic

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                          • M-technik-3
                            I waste 90% of my day here and all I got was this stupid title
                            • Oct 2003
                            • 18946

                            #14
                            Originally posted by nrubenstein
                            What does 5-lug conversion have to do with anything here? Even if you mean that he has one, it changes absolutely nothing. Unless of course, he has welded in E36 trailing arms (and no, Z3 doesn't count).
                            What arms were used? is the wheel placement off so it can't be set in proper placement will make a difference.
                            https://www.facebook.com/BentOverRacing

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                            • bimmerteck
                              Mod Crazy
                              • Mar 2009
                              • 762

                              #15
                              Originally posted by nrubenstein
                              On a stock E30, since all you can really adjust is front toe, toe plates suffice. It's easier to get the wheel centered by a little trial and error than it is to set up the strings.
                              OK, that explains it, the only "Stock" vehicle I have is my wife's, the e30 gets everything adjusted since it's running a GC setup.

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