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  • bastianshaw
    R3VLimited
    • Jan 2007
    • 2210

    #1

    quick question about brakes

    what forces the calipers back open after braking?
  • jlevie
    R3V OG
    • Nov 2006
    • 13530

    #2
    Nothing forces the calipers open, but the release of pressure and motion of the rotor allows the calipers to relax enough so that the pads aren't producing braking force.
    The car makes it possible, but the driver makes it happen.
    Jim Levie, Huntsville, AL

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    • driftingminor913
      Grease Monkey
      • Sep 2011
      • 358

      #3
      i too have a quick question, i noticed that when im braking that the rear is also braking too and i didnt no that e30's brak on all 4's instead of in the front.

      so my question is how do i remove the rear braking n just have the braking power go to the fronts???
      Because V8
      http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=282219


      Doing it wrong since 91:wgaf:

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      • Wh33lhop
        R3V OG
        • Feb 2009
        • 11705

        #4
        Originally posted by bastianshaw
        what forces the calipers back open after braking?
        The calipers/pistons do not really "move" in the way that you are imagining. They sit almost against the face of the rotor applying no pressure until you hit the pedal. Then they apply pressure. If they were really moving that much you would have to press the brake pedal pretty far before anything happened.

        Originally posted by driftingminor913
        i too have a quick question, i noticed that when im braking that the rear is also braking too and i didnt no that e30's brak on all 4's instead of in the front.

        so my question is how do i remove the rear braking n just have the braking power go to the fronts???
        What the hell are you talking about and why on earth would you want to do that?

        All cars brake with all four wheels. Every car worth a damn made in the past half century (more than that) has had 4-wheel brakes. Do not remove the rear brakes. They help stop the car.
        paint sucks

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        • Ceeker
          R3VLimited
          • Sep 2009
          • 2821

          #5
          Originally posted by driftingminor913
          i too have a quick question, i noticed that when im braking that the rear is also braking too and i didnt no that e30's brak on all 4's instead of in the front.

          so my question is how do i remove the rear braking n just have the braking power go to the fronts???
          ok...maybe a dumb question here..WTF would you want to do that? maybe remove the calipers all together? now no rear brakes and see how the car works? lol
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          • bmwguy325is
            E30 Fanatic
            • May 2011
            • 1263

            #6
            Originally posted by driftingminor913
            i too have a quick question, i noticed that when im braking that the rear is also braking too and i didnt no that e30's brak on all 4's instead of in the front.

            so my question is how do i remove the rear braking n just have the braking power go to the fronts???
            Disconect the brake lines at the master and plug the holes.

            Im chalking this up to darwinism.
            sigpic"If one does not fail at times, then one has not challenged himself." -Ferdinand Porsche
            The ugly car: http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=209713

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            • bastianshaw
              R3VLimited
              • Jan 2007
              • 2210

              #7
              Originally posted by bmwguy325is
              disconect the brake lines at the master and plug the holes.

              Im chalking this up to darwinism.
              roflmfao

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              • driftingminor913
                Grease Monkey
                • Sep 2011
                • 358

                #8
                (facepalm) well fuck, i was thinkg more or setting my car up for drift and have slide in a freinds e36 and in mide turn he would be on the brakes but applying gas to keep going through the turn.

                i was thinking some kind of same idea for the e30's tho...lol didnt know it would be that negative. N i dont mean removing the whole rear calipers= dumb
                Because V8
                http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=282219


                Doing it wrong since 91:wgaf:

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                • bastianshaw
                  R3VLimited
                  • Jan 2007
                  • 2210

                  #9
                  IE sells a biasing valve look into that?

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                  • Highway1
                    Mod Crazy
                    • Jan 2009
                    • 773

                    #10
                    Originally posted by driftingminor913
                    (facepalm) well fuck, i was thinkg more or setting my car up for drift and have slide in a freinds e36 and in mide turn he would be on the brakes but applying gas to keep going through the turn.

                    i was thinking some kind of same idea for the e30's tho...lol didnt know it would be that negative. N i dont mean removing the whole rear calipers= dumb

                    ban

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                    • MR 325
                      Moderator
                      • Oct 2003
                      • 37827

                      #11
                      Put down the crack pipe.
                      BimmerHeads
                      Classic BMW Specialists
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                      • 10Toes
                        Me Father Was A Tree
                        • Jan 2008
                        • 61222

                        #12
                        Just take the brake pads out of the rear and you will get the sam effect. It will also be cool to do big burnouts.

                        I just ask if you use my way that you post some pics of the biggest burnout you can do.

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                        • cabriodster87
                          E30 Enthusiast
                          • Jan 2011
                          • 1042

                          #13
                          Originally posted by bastianshaw
                          what forces the calipers back open after braking?
                          Nothing, they are "forced" to the rotor surface via pedal modulation. Static pressure from the caliper piston seal and dynamic suspension flex does the job.
                          Last edited by cabriodster87; 11-18-2011, 10:45 AM. Reason: ha same thing jlevie said, sorry (must read first)
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                          • slowe34
                            Wrencher
                            • Sep 2011
                            • 206

                            #14
                            Originally posted by bastianshaw
                            what forces the calipers back open after braking?
                            Originally posted by jlevie
                            Nothing forces the calipers open, but the release of pressure and motion of the rotor allows the calipers to relax enough so that the pads aren't producing braking force.
                            Originally posted by Wh33lhop
                            The calipers/pistons do not really "move" in the way that you are imagining. They sit almost against the face of the rotor applying no pressure until you hit the pedal. Then they apply pressure. If they were really moving that much you would have to press the brake pedal pretty far before anything happened.
                            Actually, the square cut seal around the piston allows the piston to retract after braking pressure is released. It is also responsible for continually adjusting the distance the piston/brake pads are to the rotors.

                            This is probably more clear: http://www.ucx.com/documents/squareseal.pdf

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                            • bastianshaw
                              R3VLimited
                              • Jan 2007
                              • 2210

                              #15
                              Originally posted by slowe34
                              Actually, the square cut seal around the piston allows the piston to retract after braking pressure is released. It is also responsible for continually adjusting the distance the piston/brake pads are to the rotors.

                              This is probably more clear: http://www.ucx.com/documents/squareseal.pdf
                              Thanks to all those that replied

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