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  • S62
    Wrencher
    • Nov 2011
    • 262

    #1

    Rear brakes locking up

    Well this has happened to me a couple of times now and its to much of a hazard to drive the car.
    Its happened about 4 times now. When I'm driving the rear brakes slowly start to engage without me pressing the peda then they lock up and I cant move the car. When this happens I just leave the car and wait a couple hours and they are back to normal (thank god it has only happened around town close to my house).
    Any ideas on what could be the problem? A bad brake booster?
  • Wschnitz
    R3V OG
    • Dec 2011
    • 8089

    #2
    Are they drums, tell us year, and model of your car. Might be a bad brake fluid pump.
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    • blunttech
      Forum Sponsor
      • Jul 2004
      • 12850

      #3
      Originally posted by S62
      Well this has happened to me a couple of times now and its to much of a hazard to drive the car.
      Its happened about 4 times now. When I'm driving the rear brakes slowly start to engage without me pressing the peda then they lock up and I cant move the car. When this happens I just leave the car and wait a couple hours and they are back to normal (thank god it has only happened around town close to my house).
      Any ideas on what could be the problem? A bad brake booster?
      more info. Is this a swap car with a modified booster rod?
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      • S62
        Wrencher
        • Nov 2011
        • 262

        #4
        Originally posted by Wschnitz
        Are they drums, tell us year, and model of your car. Might be a bad brake fluid pump.
        No they are discs. Its a 87 325is. Are there individual pumps for the front and rear. Someone told me that the brake booster has 2 pistons in it, 1 for the front and 1 for the rear. So one of them may be going bad? The car has a shit ton of miles on it.

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        • S62
          Wrencher
          • Nov 2011
          • 262

          #5
          Originally posted by blunttech
          more info. Is this a swap car with a modified booster rod?
          No the car has a stock m20 in it with the oem booster.

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          • BrownBeanE30
            E30 Modder
            • Nov 2010
            • 965

            #6
            its ur brake booster cause i had the same thing happen to me i just took the lil rod out and shaved it down a bit and it fixed the problem hope its the same for you and nothing bad
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            • blunttech
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              • Jul 2004
              • 12850

              #7
              I dont understand if nothings been done to the car why it would start now. Ive seen this happen with the incorrect push rod length after a swap. The rears drag slightly and expand as they get hot. My guess is a stuck caliper in the rear or collapsed rear rubber lines not allowing the calipers to release.
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              • S62
                Wrencher
                • Nov 2011
                • 262

                #8
                Originally posted by blunttech
                I dont understand if nothings been done to the car why it would start now. Ive seen this happen with the incorrect push rod length after a swap. The rears drag slightly and expand as they get hot. My guess is a stuck caliper in the rear or collapsed rear rubber lines not allowing the calipers to release.
                Already replaced all the brake lines

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                • immajackuup
                  E30 Enthusiast
                  • Dec 2010
                  • 1132

                  #9
                  rear brake suppose to drag and if the rear is lockingup which mean piston are seize.

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                  • Jean
                    Moderator
                    • Aug 2006
                    • 18228

                    #10
                    Booster does not have pistons, MC does that job.
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                    • der affe
                      Moderator
                      Technical
                      • Dec 2005
                      • 8452

                      #11
                      I was just about to post that ^^^^
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                      • Vtec?lol
                        No R3VLimiter
                        • Dec 2009
                        • 3278

                        #12
                        are you sure it's the brakes?

                        Sounds similar to bearings.

                        Both wheels or one?

                        any sound at all?

                        Are the rotors hot?

                        Put the rear on jack stands and let the wheels spin a bit while listening. look and feel the rotors but don't apply the brakes, just let the wheels come to a stop. If the rotors are cool to the touch, it's you're bearings.

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                        • der affe
                          Moderator
                          Technical
                          • Dec 2005
                          • 8452

                          #13
                          As stupid as it may sound, what fluid are you using? Dot3 can break down the seals and swell them making the brakes stick. A long shot, but something that gets overlooked, especially when people are comming from an american car back ground to european cars.

                          Dot 4 is what you should be using as a basic brake fluid.
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                          • Michael_B
                            Member
                            • May 2009
                            • 74

                            #14
                            I had the exact same thing happen with my 91 318ic. In my case it turned out to be a bad master cylinder. I initially thought it was my calipers and rebuilt them. I also swapped in a (known good) abs pump and a new check valve at the same time. Once I bled the system, everything appeared to be working fine. I took the car out for a test drive and after a couple of miles the rear brakes started locking up again. When I pulled over I decided to crack the line to the rear brakes, at the master cylinder. The pressure released and I was able to limp back home. Ordered a new master and after installing it and bleeding the entire system again (thank you motive bleeder), everything was ship shape. Hope this helps.

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                            • S62
                              Wrencher
                              • Nov 2011
                              • 262

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Vtec?lol
                              are you sure it's the brakes?

                              Sounds similar to bearings.

                              Both wheels or one?

                              any sound at all?

                              Are the rotors hot?

                              Put the rear on jack stands and let the wheels spin a bit while listening. look and feel the rotors but don't apply the brakes, just let the wheels come to a stop. If the rotors are cool to the touch, it's you're bearings.
                              kinda a stupid question but should I do this with the car on or off? The brakes dont permanetley lock up they unlock after a couple hours. So either way if I were to do this test the rotors would be cool to the touch. Tell me if that makes sense.

                              Originally posted by der affe
                              As stupid as it may sound, what fluid are you using? Dot3 can break down the seals and swell them making the brakes stick. A long shot, but something that gets overlooked, especially when people are comming from an american car back ground to european cars.

                              Dot 4 is what you should be using as a basic brake fluid.
                              Im using dot 4
                              Originally posted by Michael_B
                              I had the exact same thing happen with my 91 318ic. In my case it turned out to be a bad master cylinder. I initially thought it was my calipers and rebuilt them. I also swapped in a (known good) abs pump and a new check valve at the same time. Once I bled the system, everything appeared to be working fine. I took the car out for a test drive and after a couple of miles the rear brakes started locking up again. When I pulled over I decided to crack the line to the rear brakes, at the master cylinder. The pressure released and I was able to limp back home. Ordered a new master and after installing it and bleeding the entire system again (thank you motive bleeder), everything was ship shape. Hope this helps.
                              Thanks, good to know. And yes the motive bleeder is pretty sweet.




                              So after reading everyones responses it sounds like it could either be the master cylinder or the bearings. Or possibly the brake booster like BrownBeanE30 posted early.

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