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  • speedhop
    E30 Mastermind
    • Aug 2006
    • 1509

    #1

    Diagnose the brakes

    There is a very distinct squeal coming from the back right (i think) that sounds it is rotating with the wheel. It happens at all speeds from slow to fast, except when I apply pressure to the brakes it stops.

    Possibly warped rotor?
    Ebrake shoes?

    I'd appreciate your insight on this as I was looking into getting ATE rotors (powerslots?), new pads, and ss brake lines anyways. :)

    What do you think?
    www.ryanwhopkins.com
  • PiercedE30
    R3V Elite
    • Apr 2005
    • 4220

    #2
    does it sound like a metallic spinning sound? may be bearing (especially since it is the rear right)
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    • speedhop
      E30 Mastermind
      • Aug 2006
      • 1509

      #3
      i guess you could call it metallic...it sounds like metal on metal.

      Wheel bearing? Any way to diagnose that visually?

      I'll take off the rear wheels tonight and see what I got going on...

      Thanks and keep the suggestions coming!
      www.ryanwhopkins.com

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      • PiercedE30
        R3V Elite
        • Apr 2005
        • 4220

        #4
        take the wheel off, get a stethoscope, or a long screwdriver, and listen to the bearing/hub and see if it is making a metallic spinning sound.
        My 2.9L Build!

        Originally posted by Ernest Hemingway
        There are only three sports: bullfighting, motor racing, and mountaineering; all the rest are merely games.

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        • etxxz
          R3VLimited
          • Feb 2006
          • 2085

          #5
          if it occured all of the sudden one day then its your brake pads man...does the noise change when you lift your e-brake? if so then its something else and i suggest you take off your caliper and rotor (easiest of things ~ 10min checkup)

          don't know yet, jack up the car by the diff so you lift both wheels of the ground, wheels off, car on, put the car on drive/1st/2nd gear and listen and play around....keep fumes in mind...

          good luck
          No more e30s for me.
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          91 BMW 325i [sold]
          86 Corolla 'Ae86' HB 20v trd [sold]
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          • speedhop
            E30 Mastermind
            • Aug 2006
            • 1509

            #6
            good idear...on the way home it was 100x worse.

            embarrassing in LA traffic. I'm guessing it's a wheel bearing because of the symptoms.

            -Loud as metal squeal
            -Louder when moving slow (esp in reverse)
            -brakes on or off still squealing

            ...oh well time to spend the time
            www.ryanwhopkins.com

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            • Jparkr
              HR Admin
              • Jan 2006
              • 3494

              #7
              umm rare but... sometimes the pistons can be too free and vibrate loose causeing the pad and rotor to barley make contact on one little area and make noise, then when you brake you recreate full area contact which makes the noise go away...

              OR,
              if its really loud it could be the opposite and growl because the piston is locking up and not letting the pad to relax off the rotor, but that would USUALLY cause a light pull and growl constently.

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              • redhatpat
                Mod Crazy
                • Aug 2005
                • 656

                #8
                A bad wheel bearing is normally a growling noise. Squealing is more likely to be brakes.

                Jack up that wheel, spin it and try to track down the source of the noise.

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                • Charlie
                  kid tested, administrator approved
                  • Oct 2003
                  • 6686

                  #9
                  Originally posted by speedhop
                  good idear...on the way home it was 100x worse.

                  embarrassing in LA traffic. I'm guessing it's a wheel bearing because of the symptoms.

                  -Loud as metal squeal
                  -Louder when moving slow (esp in reverse)
                  -brakes on or off still squealing

                  ...oh well time to spend the time
                  Your ebrake shoe is about to shit the bed.

                  -Charlie
                  Swing wild, brake later, don't apologize.
                  '89 324d, '76 02, '98 318ti, '03 Z4, '07 MCS, '07 F800s - Bonafide BMW elitist prick.
                  FYYFF

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                  • speedhop
                    E30 Mastermind
                    • Aug 2006
                    • 1509

                    #10
                    well for all who cared....i fixed it and the outcome is hilarious

                    somehow someway a rock/pebble flew up behind the rotor but in front of the dust plate. the rock got wedged between the two in the little rivet on the plate....

                    what the hell or the chances!



                    ....oh and my ebrake shoes are shot and I have a cracked rotor
                    www.ryanwhopkins.com

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                    • Charlie
                      kid tested, administrator approved
                      • Oct 2003
                      • 6686

                      #11
                      Originally posted by speedhop


                      ....oh and my ebrake shoes are shot and I have a cracked rotor
                      Told ya.

                      -Charlie
                      Swing wild, brake later, don't apologize.
                      '89 324d, '76 02, '98 318ti, '03 Z4, '07 MCS, '07 F800s - Bonafide BMW elitist prick.
                      FYYFF

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