Rebuilding Calipers: Front piston won't go back in

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  • DrewC
    Member
    • Nov 2008
    • 61

    #1

    Rebuilding Calipers: Front piston won't go back in

    I've rebuilt the front Girling brakes but I've torn 2 dust boots trying to get the clean piston back in there. The rears were a breeze, the piston would slide in just a hair to seat up straight and square, but the fronts keeps going in crooked, jamming up and tearing the outer boot seal.

    Help!

    Thanks :)

    1986 325ES LeMons Racer
  • DrewC
    Member
    • Nov 2008
    • 61

    #2
    I just read the pelican parts article and the dust boot part didn't make sense to me.

    1986 325ES LeMons Racer

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    • DrewC
      Member
      • Nov 2008
      • 61

      #3
      Note to self: C-clamp does not produce the amount of force as tapping with a hammer.

      It felt super tight, but apparently tapping the hammer delivers a much more potent punch and the caliper went right in. I also ended up playing with the boot more, and that helped a lot.

      Carry on.

      1986 325ES LeMons Racer

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      • Gooch
        E30 Mastermind
        • Dec 2006
        • 1674

        #4
        Thanks for posting up your solution...I'm going to have to do this soon. I was going to point you to the DIY thread on this with pictures, but you've got it covered.

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        • DrewC
          Member
          • Nov 2008
          • 61

          #5
          Originally posted by Gooch
          Thanks for posting up your solution...I'm going to have to do this soon. I was going to point you to the DIY thread on this with pictures, but you've got it covered.
          I read it but it wasn't good enough. I was tearing the boots because I seated them and then tried to put the piston in. False.

          Slide the boot over the piston and pull it all the way down (don't let it seat it self on the piston's groove near the brake pad contact area). Slide it down and let the boot hang off the bottom of the piston enough to seat on the caliper. VERY delicately (as not to let the boot slip off the piston) seat the seal on the caliper, and then press the piston back in and once it's all the way in the pistons' groove will seat with the boot's ring.

          1986 325ES LeMons Racer

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          • Beej '86 325es
            R3VLimited
            • Feb 2004
            • 2639

            #6
            Rebuilding the front girling calipers takes a special talent. You need 8 muscular childs' hands to get the damn dust boot on.
            -Brandon
            '86 325es S50
            '12 VW GTI Autobahn DSG
            '03 540i M-Sport (sold)
            '08 Jeep SRT-8 (sold)

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            • DrewC
              Member
              • Nov 2008
              • 61

              #7
              Originally posted by Beej '86 325es
              Rebuilding the front girling calipers takes a special talent. You need 8 muscular childs' hands to get the damn dust boot on.
              Once I figured out my style for doing it, it was a cinch. After doing the first one, I did the 2nd in no time.

              1986 325ES LeMons Racer

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              • bmwpower
                E30 Mastermind
                • Jul 2007
                • 1556

                #8
                Where are you getting your parts?
                How often are you going to rebuild them?
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                • DrewC
                  Member
                  • Nov 2008
                  • 61

                  #9
                  Originally posted by bmwpower
                  Where are you getting your parts?
                  How often are you going to rebuild them?
                  Got them from Pelican. I don't think they need to be rebuilt very often if you flush your fluid once every year or so. The seals looked in great shape, the calipers were just gunked up. I just got the car, so I have no idea if they were original or have been replaced in the life of the car.

                  1986 325ES LeMons Racer

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                  • bmwpower
                    E30 Mastermind
                    • Jul 2007
                    • 1556

                    #10
                    Originally posted by DrewC
                    Got them from Pelican. I don't think they need to be rebuilt very often if you flush your fluid once every year or so. The seals looked in great shape, the calipers were just gunked up. I just got the car, so I have no idea if they were original or have been replaced in the life of the car.
                    By gunked up, what do you mean? Sorry, never rebuilt one but sounds like it would be easy and worthwhile for optimum braking.
                    89 325is track project / 05 x5 / 99 M3
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                    • Beej '86 325es
                      R3VLimited
                      • Feb 2004
                      • 2639

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Beej '86 325es
                      Rebuilding the front girling calipers takes a special talent. You need 8 muscular childs' hands to get the damn dust boot on.
                      BTW, I have a whole front brake package for sale, including 2 rebuilt and unused Girlings (all new parts except the caliper and piston) - $150 for calipers shipped to lower 48.
                      -Brandon
                      '86 325es S50
                      '12 VW GTI Autobahn DSG
                      '03 540i M-Sport (sold)
                      '08 Jeep SRT-8 (sold)

                      For sale:
                      S50 TMS chip for Schricks

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                      • andrewc53
                        Member
                        • Nov 2008
                        • 41

                        #12
                        I take the piston and put a little grease on that and on the O rings and hold it up to the caliper dust seal and blow compressed air in form the brake line hole to get the dustboot over the piston and they slid in by hand every time

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                        • Cloudbase
                          E30 Mastermind
                          • Nov 2010
                          • 1795

                          #13
                          Originally posted by DrewC
                          I read it but it wasn't good enough. I was tearing the boots because I seated them and then tried to put the piston in. False.

                          Slide the boot over the piston and pull it all the way down (don't let it seat it self on the piston's groove near the brake pad contact area). Slide it down and let the boot hang off the bottom of the piston enough to seat on the caliper. VERY delicately (as not to let the boot slip off the piston) seat the seal on the caliper, and then press the piston back in and once it's all the way in the pistons' groove will seat with the boot's ring.
                          It seems like the Pelican procedure is for the rear brake dust boot along with later model ones. The wisdom above just saved me after spending an hour frustratingly trying to get that fucking boot on. Thanks man!
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