Vorshlag camber plates.....your camber settings?...

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  • JRKOUPE
    No R3VLimiter
    • Dec 2004
    • 3159

    #1

    Vorshlag camber plates.....your camber settings?...

    wondering what you guys are running......and how "negative" you were able to go?....

    best

    JR
    I love sitting down and just driving!
  • jlevie
    R3V OG
    • Nov 2006
    • 13530

    #2
    How much camber to run is determined by the tires you use. Most street tires aren't going to like more than a couple degrees. Race tires typically like more, though it varies. For example, Toyo R888's like 2.5deg but Toyo RA1's prefer 3.5deg. Some R-comps are happy with camber in the 4-5deg range.

    I sort of think that the Vorshlag plates may allow for a touch more camber than the GC plates. When either are used with stock diameter springs, the limit occurs when the upper spring perch runs into the strut tower. On my cars (GC plates, H&R Race springs) that happens at about 3.5deg.

    If you dial in a bunch of camber, set the toe for zero to avoid rapidly chewing up the front tires.
    The car makes it possible, but the driver makes it happen.
    Jim Levie, Huntsville, AL

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    • JRKOUPE
      No R3VLimiter
      • Dec 2004
      • 3159

      #3
      camber plts....

      I really just want to know if folks were able to get more than neg 3, if they tried?......of course that would be people that track the cars.....

      I want to know if people were having trouble getting 3 and over...
      Last edited by JRKOUPE; 03-31-2010, 01:33 PM.
      I love sitting down and just driving!

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      • kuzimmer
        Member
        • Apr 2008
        • 93

        #4
        I can get about -4.4 degrees with my Vorshlag camber plates and AST coil-over setup. I chose to set up the car with -3.5 degrees camber and 0.05 degrees toe-out (essentially zero) for the track. I can then simply move the camber to -2.5 degrees for the street. When I do this my toe changes to 0.25 degrees toe-in. I run on RA-1s.

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        • JRKOUPE
          No R3VLimiter
          • Dec 2004
          • 3159

          #5
          Originally posted by kuzimmer
          I can get about -4.4 degrees with my Vorshlag camber plates and AST coil-over setup. I chose to set up the car with -3.5 degrees camber and 0.05 degrees toe-out (essentially zero) for the track. I can then simply move the camber to -2.5 degrees for the street. When I do this my toe changes to 0.25 degrees toe-in. I run on RA-1s.
          Kuz.......thats good to know!....is your car slammed?...we dont want to slam her. And the lower you go the more neg camber one gains.
          I love sitting down and just driving!

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          • CorvallisBMW
            Long Schlong Longhammer
            • Feb 2005
            • 13039

            #6
            I run about 1.5 degrees on my Pirreli Pzero Nerros, because they wear like a bitch and are expensive lol.

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            • kuzimmer
              Member
              • Apr 2008
              • 93

              #7
              Originally posted by JRKOUPE
              Kuz.......thats good to know!....is your car slammed?...we dont want to slam her. And the lower you go the more neg camber one gains.
              No, in fact with 225/45-15 tires, it looks a little like a rally car at the front. Before adjusting the corner weights, I set the car at 6" from the jack point reinforcements (not the seam that comes down another 1/2"). Some Pro-3 cars are set up to run 5" from the seam. Since they run 225/50-15 tires, they are sitting almost a full inch lower than my car.

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              • JRKOUPE
                No R3VLimiter
                • Dec 2004
                • 3159

                #8
                Originally posted by kuzimmer
                No, in fact with 225/45-15 tires, it looks a little like a rally car at the front. Before adjusting the corner weights, I set the car at 6" from the jack point reinforcements (not the seam that comes down another 1/2"). Some Pro-3 cars are set up to run 5" from the seam. Since they run 225/50-15 tires, they are sitting almost a full inch lower than my car.
                ok..thats good info. I was a bit concerned the plates had some limitations w/ neg camber.
                I love sitting down and just driving!

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                • kuzimmer
                  Member
                  • Apr 2008
                  • 93

                  #9
                  Here's a quick pic that show's you how the car sits. The car's a bit dirty from a really soggy day at the track on Monday... 225/50-15 tires would fill out the fenders better and look a lot better on the car, but I like the way the car handles with the 225/45s. Back on topic, the car sits low, but its far from slammed.

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                  • JRKOUPE
                    No R3VLimiter
                    • Dec 2004
                    • 3159

                    #10
                    plates

                    ok...thats low enough....i would think 225/45s wind out alot.....they are a bit short no?

                    is that a cf hood?.....which manufacturer?...fit appears good.
                    I love sitting down and just driving!

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                    • kuzimmer
                      Member
                      • Apr 2008
                      • 93

                      #11
                      Originally posted by JRKOUPE
                      ok...thats low enough....i would think 225/45s wind out alot.....they are a bit short no?
                      Well, I run an M50 with M3 transmission and 3.23 rear diff. The gearing is similar to running a stock tranny with 4.10 rear diff. So, yes its going to wind out, but for a track car, that's a good thing. I'm not fast enough that I run out of rpms in 5th gear at any track I drive, so for me its a benefit.

                      Originally posted by JRKOUPE
                      is that a cf hood?.....which manufacturer?...fit appears good.
                      DTM Fiberwerkz

                      Kurt

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                      • JRKOUPE
                        No R3VLimiter
                        • Dec 2004
                        • 3159

                        #12
                        Originally posted by kuzimmer
                        Well, I run an M50 with M3 transmission and 3.23 rear diff. The gearing is similar to running a stock tranny with 4.10 rear diff. So, yes its going to wind out, but for a track car, that's a good thing. I'm not fast enough that I run out of rpms in 5th gear at any track I drive, so for me its a benefit.



                        DTM Fiberwerkz

                        Kurt
                        I run a stock tranny w/ a current m20 and a 410..

                        w/ 225/50s....its close to perfect..... but at pocono I wish I could hold 3 rd a lil longer before upshifting.....but I doubt Im losing more than .5 secs....lol
                        I love sitting down and just driving!

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