need help! URGENT!

**Justin B** · 03-17-2005, 08:57 PM

YEa they'd work, but what I wonder is if theyre the Sport, HD or Touring ones. HD or Touring would probably be better for stock springs. Touring costs less than the other two though. You might want to email the seller and ask what the part numbers are, and maybe what type they are if they can find the info. If not, just look at the part number and check out an online retailer and try to match the numbers to the shocks they have in their catalog.
That is a pretty darn good deal though, but it would be kinda nice to know what type they are.

**Sean** · 03-17-2005, 09:01 PM

I'm with Justin.

I'd ask the seller what they are. Unless they are confused themselves.

Since they're that cheap, they most likely aren't sports. So, they probably wouldn't lower the car any.

Let us know what the seller says.

**vschinzel** · 03-17-2005, 09:21 PM

well, where I live, I don't wanna lower the car, I was just talking with some other guys...

MR suggested that I'd get them if they aren't sports, and get stock M3 springs.

BMWjnky said that'll be too soft. What do you guys think? I don't want to lower the car, because I don't want to get into changing rims, tires and the like because of scraping...

**Justin B** · 03-17-2005, 09:36 PM

I dont know enough to really comment on the different combo's like with m3 springs or not/ different shocks with those springs or stock, or aftermarket etc. Im still a noob but have some experience with 2002's and know about bilsteins.

Basically, I dont understand if he is saying it will be too soft with the M3 springs and anything other than sport dampers, but I know that sport shocks and stock springs will stiffen it up damping wise, but not the spring rate or anything obviously. To really avoid spending a lot of money, but improving the ride somewhat, Bilstein HD's and stock springs would still be a little better. That is probably what I will replace my cabby shocks with when I get around to it. If you want to get into how far you can lower the car without rubbing issues using the same wheels and whatnot that would have to be answered by someone else.

Any of the bilsteins are better than the worn stock shocks though, IMO. Any of them would be OK except the sports (which I doubt they are), for which you should probably look into different springs, but then that opens a whole different can of worms. Just ask the seller what they really are first and get past that, it doesnt mean you have to buy them if you ask a question.

**vschinzel** · 03-17-2005, 09:40 PM

yeah, I already asked the seller for the serial/part numbers...

So you think that stock M3 springs and any Bilstein except the sports would work?

**Justin B** · 03-17-2005, 09:47 PM

The sports would actually be the stiffest out of the 3. I am building an M20 powered 2002 and got some Sports, along with several other stiff suspension items. I honestly dont see how M3 springs and Bilstein sports could be too "soft" I just dont get it. Doesnt the M3 have a stiffer spring rate? That paired with stiffer shocks in my eyes couldnt be anyhting but stiffer than stock. I really dont know what exactly that would do to the ride height and how much so it may not be what you're after anyway.

Stiff to more Mooshy and less bone jarring ride - Sports - HD - Touring

**vschinzel** · 03-17-2005, 09:49 PM

Maybe I mispoke, what I am thinking right now is, getting the stock M3 springs and then the shocks from the eBay dude, if they are NOT sports, that should still be ok, right? I'm not planning on racing or anything...

**Justin B** · 03-17-2005, 09:52 PM

Yeah, sorry I didnt understand what you meant. That seems alright. Not too stiff, but an upgrade in both springs and damper stiffnes. Sounds like a plan to me. Just dont get yourself trapped in the 'might as wells' and go gonzo with camber plates, sway bars, big brakes, engine swaps, oh sorry thats starting to sound like my 02. lol.

Yeah, go for it.

**vschinzel** · 03-17-2005, 09:54 PM

I'm a little noob. I have no idea what damper plates and all the other stuff are. Do I need to upgrade that stuff as well? I just got my bentley today :D so I'm a start studying whooooooowhooooo

**Justin B** · 03-17-2005, 09:57 PM

haha no, disregard that entire post ;) Besides that your plan is O-K :D

**vschinzel** · 03-17-2005, 09:59 PM

Thanks Justin, I was looking around the internet and eBay, found the shocks and I want them really bad and so I started bothering people and asking questions... :shock:

Well, I really appreciate your help. Thank you, I'll post pics when I get everything and have it all installed....

**vschinzel** · 03-18-2005, 01:30 PM

Heard back from the seller on eBay

I finally heard back from the seller...

He sent me the part numbers:

PNE-3050
BNE-1981

I checked them, and it turns out the shocks he's selling are "Bilstein Touring Class" shocks. So I decided I'd do some mor research... and here is what I found: http://www.proamauto.com/page15bbiltcb9.htm

They sell the entire set for $200.38, that's a whole 20c off compared to when you buy them seperately from the. Their shipping is about $20, so $220 as compared to the $240 on eBay.

I think I'm gonna go ahead and get the "Touring Class Bilsteins" and combine them with some stock E30 M3 springs.

Thanks again guys!

need help! URGENT!

need help! URGENT!

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