Eibach vs. H&R

[E30_(1st Musk)_]

eibach=SOFT
H&R RACE= nice drop and good spring rate
coilovers=best option because you can control the low and buy whatever spring rate you want.

to me if you are already spending money on springs might as well save up more and get h&r with some peace of mind.

i dont think anyone is going to give you a good review on the eibach springs if thats what you are fishing for...

[Fidhle007]

You're young, aren't you?

[bernzpeed]

I thought Tokico's were a good brand too. Anyone?

[Fidhle007]

You get what you pay for...

[e30BMart]

It's not eibach or H&R but anyone have a review on these?

[bernzpeed]

Is this a good deal?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=200502178582#ht_2447wt_1165

[LJ851]

Eibachs suck monkey balls. They're softer then stock and super low so if you want a soft, VW ride and have a lot of money for spare oil pans they're definitely the way to go.

Tell us how you really feel!

[Fidhle007]

Eibachs suck monkey balls. They're softer then stock and super low so if you want a soft, VW ride and have a lot of money for spare oil pans they're definitely the way to go.

[e30BMart]

Bump. We need reviews on eibachs! Sorry for my late reply. We got good info going on here!

[NeoMishMoo]

Sounds to me like H&R is the way to go, I've only read good stuff about them. If OP doesnt follow up on those cheap Eibachs then I'd be interested. Even if they were crap they'd still be a hell of a lot better than the broken down stock stuff under me now.

[Sagaris]

Cornering grip / excellent handling are both very high priorities on my car and I have H&R sports. Why not H&R race then?
1) Driving enjoyment to me is feeling connected without feeling uncomfortable. Driving a car with a big camshaft, solid engine mounts, poly bushings, and stiff suspension gets old quickly (unless you only drive on the track and never have speed bumps and stoplights to worry about)
2) Going too low has many obvious downfalls, susp. geometry + oil pan clearance being two biggies. These are not as much of an issue with sports.
3) Softer springs + thicker adjustable sway bars = all the flatness and roll stiffness you could ask for while keeping a decent ride
4) Stiffer springs cause for more abrupt weight transfer to the front and rear wheels which gives you that much time to correct mistakes.

Tire width and compound have the greatest impact on overall grip. Spring and sway bar combinations impact overall balance and tendancy to understeer/oversteer more than they do cornering grip. One of the big ways that springs CAN help with handling is when the road is bumpy. On a bumpy road you want a higher spring (and damper) rate which will help keep the tire in contact with the road BUT if the spring is too short (extra low lowering springs) you have reduced suspension travel and will be more prone to losing contact with the road.

With all that said. I am very happy with my H&R sports. The ride comfort was right on the line of being too harsh when the springs were brand new (for the first 100 miles or so) but once things settled they leave me wishing they were a tad stiffer.

[I*Do*Werke]

I havent tried both, but I had the H&R race springs on my e46 and I loved it. Stayed flat in the corners and rode pretty nice for race springs. If you want a firm and sporty feel, then races are good. I remember people on the e46 forums saying that both were good, but H&R gave the car more of a raked look (when the front is lower than the rear) However, this could be just e46 specific.

Bottom line, If I were to choose springs they would be from H&R. But either brand is good and it really boils down to price

[e30BMart]

how much cheap? and why does your friend regret the races? why are coilovers better and last but not least, I'm driving it in the winter.

[nrubenstein]

Eibachs are junk. Plain and simple. But I've got a set I'd sell you for very cheap if you'd like to find out for yourself.

[gverelli]

I would like to still have a spine at the end of the year =p. Now I need a review on the eibachs! hehe, yeah montreal roads ftw! do you hit the ground sometimes?

Never scraped once with the races, not even with the IS lip and splitter...