My steering isn't as responsive as it should be, help?

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  • BMC227
    E30 Addict
    • Apr 2011
    • 448

    #1

    My steering isn't as responsive as it should be, help?

    Hey, I've noticed that the steering on my e30 isn't as responsive as it should be, it feels like it's "floaty" and also at high speeds it feels very floaty. I've replaced the tie rod assemblies and every other front end suspension/steering component. I've checked the wheel alignment several times and checked everything thoroughly but still can't find my issue.

    Can anyone help me please?
    They call me the frog



    - E30 Alpina C2 2.7
    - E30 Alpina C2 2.5
    - E28 M 528I 3.5 (300HP)
    - E36 M3 S50 3.2 (Euro)
  • Philo
    Ich esse kleine Kinder
    • Oct 2008
    • 3334

    #2
    How are your tires? Is this a new problem?
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    I like the stance
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    • bme30
      Advanced Member
      • Apr 2011
      • 186

      #3
      What's the toe in or toe out?

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      • BMC227
        E30 Addict
        • Apr 2011
        • 448

        #4
        The tyres are new and i only just started driving the car due to getting it restored. Sorry i wouldn't know what the toe in/toe out is.
        They call me the frog



        - E30 Alpina C2 2.7
        - E30 Alpina C2 2.5
        - E28 M 528I 3.5 (300HP)
        - E36 M3 S50 3.2 (Euro)

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        • browntown
          No R3VLimiter
          • Jun 2004
          • 3524

          #5
          If you're sure your rack / tie rods are good - go get an alignment.

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          • BMC227
            E30 Addict
            • Apr 2011
            • 448

            #6
            Originally posted by browntown
            If you're sure your rack / tie rods are good - go get an alignment.
            Like i said i've replaced all the front end suspension/steering bits with new ones. It has been wheel aligned several times, camber is 1.5 degrees negative on both wheels etc.
            They call me the frog



            - E30 Alpina C2 2.7
            - E30 Alpina C2 2.5
            - E28 M 528I 3.5 (300HP)
            - E36 M3 S50 3.2 (Euro)

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            • JeST
              Mod Crazy
              • Mar 2011
              • 639

              #7
              Originally posted by BMC227
              Like i said i've replaced all the front end suspension/steering bits with new ones. It has been wheel aligned several times, camber is 1.5 degrees negative on both wheels etc.
              What exactly do you mean you replaced all the front end suspension/steering bits? Exactly which components are you referring to? If a front control arm bushing is worn it could give a real shitty steering response and it's also a quick look to see if it needs replacing.
              Current: 1988 M3 - Henna/Black black alcantara

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              Previous:
              '87 S50 MTech 1 325is
              '07 DTM Audi S4
              '03 VF Supercharged M3
              '03 Lexus IS300 (615rwhp/512rwtq)

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              • browntown
                No R3VLimiter
                • Jun 2004
                • 3524

                #8
                Sorry, I was just responding to your question about toe in/out. These are specs you would get from your alignment shop.

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                • JeST
                  Mod Crazy
                  • Mar 2011
                  • 639

                  #9
                  Originally posted by BMC227
                  The tyres are new and i only just started driving the car due to getting it restored. Sorry i wouldn't know what the toe in/toe out is.
                  This is a picture for toe in or toe out to give you an idea. Specs should be printed on your alignment sheet (if you received one) and if you didn't receive one I would question the alignment ...

                  Current: 1988 M3 - Henna/Black black alcantara

                  Guten Parts + Service
                  ... When you care enough to only give the very best.


                  Previous:
                  '87 S50 MTech 1 325is
                  '07 DTM Audi S4
                  '03 VF Supercharged M3
                  '03 Lexus IS300 (615rwhp/512rwtq)

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                  • BMC227
                    E30 Addict
                    • Apr 2011
                    • 448

                    #10
                    Originally posted by JeST
                    What exactly do you mean you replaced all the front end suspension/steering bits? Exactly which components are you referring to? If a front control arm bushing is worn it could give a real shitty steering response and it's also a quick look to see if it needs replacing.
                    I replaced the following:

                    New control arms
                    New M3 offset bushes
                    New tie rod assy
                    New steering coupling
                    New shocks
                    New strut mounts
                    New engine mounts
                    New sway bar bushes + adjustable links
                    They call me the frog



                    - E30 Alpina C2 2.7
                    - E30 Alpina C2 2.5
                    - E28 M 528I 3.5 (300HP)
                    - E36 M3 S50 3.2 (Euro)

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                    • BMC227
                      E30 Addict
                      • Apr 2011
                      • 448

                      #11
                      Originally posted by JeST
                      This is a picture for toe in or toe out to give you an idea. Specs should be printed on your alignment sheet (if you received one) and if you didn't receive one I would question the alignment ...

                      What i meant was, i don't know the toe in/toe out specs on the car at the moment.
                      They call me the frog



                      - E30 Alpina C2 2.7
                      - E30 Alpina C2 2.5
                      - E28 M 528I 3.5 (300HP)
                      - E36 M3 S50 3.2 (Euro)

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                      • Ian Bowers
                        E30 Enthusiast
                        • Apr 2008
                        • 1120

                        #12
                        Have you ever driven an E30 before this ? The stock steering rack isn't super responsive, and it has a ton of travel lock-to-lock.

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                        • BMC227
                          E30 Addict
                          • Apr 2011
                          • 448

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Ian Bowers
                          Have you ever driven an E30 before this ? The stock steering rack isn't super responsive, and it has a ton of travel lock-to-lock.
                          Yeah dude i've owned a few before this but my problem is, at high speeds (150km/h) the steering feels floaty.. as if the wheels aren't sticking to the road as they should.
                          They call me the frog



                          - E30 Alpina C2 2.7
                          - E30 Alpina C2 2.5
                          - E28 M 528I 3.5 (300HP)
                          - E36 M3 S50 3.2 (Euro)

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                          • Earendil
                            E30 Mastermind
                            • Jun 2009
                            • 1662

                            #14
                            Originally posted by BMC227
                            Yeah dude i've owned a few before this but my problem is, at high speeds (150km/h) the steering feels floaty.. as if the wheels aren't sticking to the road as they should.
                            My suggestions would be:

                            1. Don't do 150km/h in a downpour.
                            2. Remove all the bodies from the trunk, and the lead weights from the rear bumper.

                            Otherwise, do you have something aerodynamically @#$%ed on your car?

                            Jokes aside, it doesn't make much sense to me that you'd have a floating wheel at speed, but not driving slower.

                            Oh, check your tire pressure! The only time I've felt "floaty" steering at freeway speeds was when I was driving a truck that had the trailer incorrectly loaded (front end of truck didn't have weight on it) and when someone put the maximum tire pressure in the front wheels of the car :curse:
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                            • BMC227
                              E30 Addict
                              • Apr 2011
                              • 448

                              #15
                              Thought i'd let you guys know that i found the problem, the new inner tie rods that i installed were faulty! so i swapped them over with another set of new ones and the steering is great!
                              They call me the frog



                              - E30 Alpina C2 2.7
                              - E30 Alpina C2 2.5
                              - E28 M 528I 3.5 (300HP)
                              - E36 M3 S50 3.2 (Euro)

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