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  • e30_3I8I
    Grease Monkey
    • Sep 2009
    • 305

    #1

    New Suspension question

    I've installed ie3 with koni S/A on my 84 318. Everytime a take a hard right, the car will start pulling to the right, and when i make a hard left it pulls left. I've been driving on the new suspension for a week now, and i probably went over 100 miles now. Can you guys help me out?
    my project

    http://r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=164374
  • tonywonder
    E30 Mastermind
    • Sep 2009
    • 1688

    #2
    so your car turning is an issue?

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    • grippymonkey
      Mod Crazy
      • Jun 2011
      • 759

      #3
      probably bent tie rod/rods

      they are keep the car straight until you turn which the shift forward or backward causing the wheel to pull more in or out... thus the steering problem
      GRIPPY'S*GARAGE

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      • bmwguy325is
        E30 Fanatic
        • May 2011
        • 1262

        #4
        So it turns when you turn? Sounds like a good thing if you want to turn.
        If you lowered the car you may have some weird toe settings.
        sigpic"If one does not fail at times, then one has not challenged himself." -Ferdinand Porsche
        The ugly car: http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=209713

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        • Jean
          Moderator
          • Aug 2006
          • 18228

          #5
          Did you get it aligned after the install?
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          • e30_3I8I
            Grease Monkey
            • Sep 2009
            • 305

            #6
            Originally posted by tonywonder
            so your car turning is an issue?
            NO turning is fine, the steering wheel is kinda harder to move around. ive checked the ps fluid and everything is fine.

            Originally posted by bmwguy325is
            So it turns when you turn? Sounds like a good thing if you want to turn.
            If you lowered the car you may have some weird toe settings.
            If im standing still, and i turn my wheel all the way to the left, and then i bring it back and start driving. The car starts to go towards the left side.

            Originally posted by Jean
            Did you get it aligned after the install?
            No i was told to wait for it to settle in.
            my project

            http://r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=164374

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            • jlevie
              R3V OG
              • Nov 2006
              • 13530

              #7
              That is almost certainly binding of the upper shock mounts. When you turn hard in one direction the upper spring hat goes to full travel, but doesn't fully return to the centered position as you relax the wheel because the upper mount binds. That causes the wheels to pull in the direction of the last hard turn. This is a common problem with some camber plates that have plain spherical bearings instead of ball/roller bearings. With those camber plates frequent lubrication helps, but the problem will always be there. But the same affect can result from bad OE upper mounts.
              Last edited by jlevie; 07-23-2011, 08:14 AM.
              The car makes it possible, but the driver makes it happen.
              Jim Levie, Huntsville, AL

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              • e30_3I8I
                Grease Monkey
                • Sep 2009
                • 305

                #8
                Originally posted by jlevie
                That is almost certainly binding of the upper shock mounts. When you turn hard in one direction the upper spring hat goes to full travel, but doesn't fully return to the centered position as you relax the wheel because the upper mount binds. That causes the wheels to pull in the direction of the last hard turn. This is a commpn problem with some camber plates that have plain spherical bearings instead of ball/roller bearings. With those camber plates frequent lubrication helps, but the problem will always be there. But the same affect can result from bad OE upper mounts.
                Your most probably right. its my oe upper mounts. they didn't look bad on the stock suspension, but once i changed them, it started to crack. I believe there is nothing wrong with buy oe upper mounts, camber plates are only beneficial for the track.
                my project

                http://r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=164374

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                • jlevie
                  R3V OG
                  • Nov 2006
                  • 13530

                  #9
                  It sounds like the bearings in your strut mounts are gone. When you change them do make sure that the strut and upper mount are assembeled with correct parts in the right places. The link below shows correct parts order. In particular #7 and #8 are critically important.

                  http://www.realoem.com/bmw/showparts...11&hg=31&fg=10
                  The car makes it possible, but the driver makes it happen.
                  Jim Levie, Huntsville, AL

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                  • e30_3I8I
                    Grease Monkey
                    • Sep 2009
                    • 305

                    #10
                    Yah i believe i have it on the right way. Im going to by new oe strut mounts and see what happens.
                    my project

                    http://r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=164374

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                    • e30_3I8I
                      Grease Monkey
                      • Sep 2009
                      • 305

                      #11
                      So I bought new strut mounts but the car still has the same problem=/
                      my project

                      http://r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=164374

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                      • green
                        Advanced Member
                        • Dec 2010
                        • 128

                        #12
                        And the washers that Jim pointed out are on there? That's weird that it is still doing it. May be a stupid question, but when you put the new strut mounts on, did they spin freely?

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                        • ak-
                          R3V OG
                          • May 2009
                          • 12422

                          #13
                          Originally posted by e30_3I8I
                          So I bought new strut mounts but the car still has the same problem=/
                          Don't tighten the top mounts super tight.
                          They should be somewhat tight so the bearing can spin. Let me know if this was the problem.

                          1991 325iS turbo

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                          • Fusion
                            No R3VLimiter
                            • Nov 2009
                            • 3658

                            #14
                            I have the exact same thing going on. Also recently did all joints, cabs, Koni sports.
                            Difference is I have pillowball adjustable top mounts and they don't spin freely like OEMs, so I just got used to it.
                            I've done alignment and everything is fine.

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                            • e30_3I8I
                              Grease Monkey
                              • Sep 2009
                              • 305

                              #15
                              Originally posted by ak-
                              Don't tighten the top mounts super tight.
                              They should be somewhat tight so the bearing can spin. Let me know if this was the problem.
                              Wont it get loose and fall out or something? I used the impact to tighten it..haha
                              my project

                              http://r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=164374

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