DROP iT! on springs

[CAL1FORN1A]

I want to drop my car pretty low on springs, not coil overs (too expensive) I keep hearing H&R but the drop does not sound low enough...anyone have any suggestions? pics of what you are running in the $200-$300 range would be great. I am looking for low over performance for now. thanks in advance. My 91 M-Technic appearance package white/white restoration is coming along great....just came out of paint and body....up next the DROP...then interior....removable hardtop painted white also coming back form the shop tomorrow I hope....

[Jafxod]

You have an Mtech and think coilovers are to expensive? Fuck this world.

[CAL1FORN1A]

coilovers maybe later...i just spent enough cash getting rid of all the rust, dents, and crappy paint job that the last owner allowed to happen to the car...shipped from Virginia to California where it belongs....

[taiden]

You could select what spring rates and lengths you want, and then buy used circle track parts on ebay. That's what I'm doing with my car. In the end it will cost somewhere around $75 - $150

There are a few members who rock coilover springs in the back with no adjustable perch. IIRC they were somewhere around 5" in length and 500 rate. Do your research.

Or you could just get off the shelf stuff and not have to worry about anything.

[Sagaris]

Should I sell you a new oil pan in advance?

[CAL1FORN1A]

oil pan casualty on my last m-technic that was lowered...hopefully a little older and wiser this time around.....but it still has to be low to complete the look in my opinion

[Vivek]

You could select what spring rates and lengths you want, and then buy used circle track parts on ebay. That's what I'm doing with my car. In the end it will cost somewhere around $75 - $150

There are a few members who rock coilover springs in the back with no adjustable perch. IIRC they were somewhere around 5" in length and 500 rate. Do your research.

Or you could just get off the shelf stuff and not have to worry about anything.

Do you even need adjusters? Just get some nice stiff short springs (like 4 in the rear is pretty low, but it'll have to be well over 500) and short springs up front and you're good right?...for like a week until you blow your shocks.

[taiden]

Do you even need adjusters? Just get some nice stiff short springs (like 4 in the rear is pretty low, but it'll have to be well over 500) and short springs up front and you're good right?...for like a week until you blow your shocks.

Pretty much. The only real issue is if the length of the spring is shorter than the distance between upper and lower spring perch at full droop. This can do a few things, the worst of which would be the spring falling out of the back. The most likely, however, is the fact that your damper won't fully extend on droop which will give you less travel when you car comes slamming back down onto the ground. That's why rally cars have incredibly long springs, because they want as much travel as possible when they finally hit the ground. More travel means the damper has more 'time' to slow the car down so you don't smash into your bumpstops/bottom out.

With a coilover/adjustable setup you can just run helper/tender springs.

With a single spring arrangement there's not much you can do. Progressive springs usually don't have this problem because the low rate coils can be made long to negate this. I'm guessing that this is one reason why H&R races are progressive.

[einstein57]

You can buy coilovers for less then the price of H&R races.

Pics of mckman with his $280 setup




Me tucking 215/40/16 front and rear on a early model which is not easy to do.

[taiden]

Did he piece together that setup? Afco stuff?

[Blackout]

Did he piece together that setup? Afco stuff?

LOL....
He is running Einstein's GE Coilovers, best bang for your buck.

[taiden]

LOL....
He is running Einstein's GE Coilovers, best bang for your buck.

The pricing is impressive. The springs alone cost more if you buy them through hyperco without any kind of bulk discount.

[Gizmo]

@Einstein, what coilovers are you using? $280 for coilover set up sounds like a dream come true. I paid $1000 for both my previous cars.

[MR 325]

@Einstein, what coilovers are you using? $280 for coilover set up sounds like a dream come true. I paid $1000 for both my previous cars.

http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=219932

[CAL1FORN1A]

Do I buy form you Einstein57? please PM me so we can work it out please!!! I would like to find out what i would need if anything other than just the $250 cost...let me know..this drop looks like what I am looking for...and how do I deal with the camber if there is any? thanks for the response.