Help on choosing the right Camber Plate please.

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  • N2MYE30
    R3V Elite
    • Oct 2007
    • 5536

    #1

    Help on choosing the right Camber Plate please.

    This is my situation.

    Bilstein sports
    H&R sports (coupe)
    15mm Drophats
    All new frontend w/ M3 CAB
    225/45 BFG KDWs

    Excessive wear inners. I want correct this problem even though I know it is inherent from running low on e30s...but Im not even that low imo.

    Pix for reference...


    What are owners preferences for DDing?
    I see plenty of rides running GC with thier C/O setup but im on stock sized springs.

    Then there is the Touring GC setup but are these used only for c/o?


    My question with the 2 above are that (from what I can see) there are no bushings between the the bearing and the adjuster housing. Do these setups make a difference in noise, comfort, and or adjustment? It looks like it would be noisy.

    Then I looked into the SPC Camber plates. These look the part and have a bushing between the bearing and the plate. Anybody have experience with these?


    Then there are these...KMAC plates?


    Then, there are Fix camber plates which im not too keen on just because it will increase my ride height. Not happening.


    Any input would be helpful. If there enough input in this thread, maybe an official camber plate thread?

    Cheers.

    BTW, if anybody is selling something that may suit my needs, PM me. :up:

    COTM
  • bmwguy325is
    E30 Fanatic
    • May 2011
    • 1262

    #2
    I curently have vorshlag plates and like them. I am considering the ground control units(yer first pic). I am not sure though as its a needless upgrade. The GC plates look as though one can get more caster out of them.
    SO you are doing this to fix weird tire wear?
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    • N2MYE30
      R3V Elite
      • Oct 2007
      • 5536

      #3
      Originally posted by bmwguy325is
      SO you are doing this to fix weird tire wear?
      Yes, it is my main goal.

      I have seen the vorshlag plates and they look very similar to the GC. Why the switch?

      COTM

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      • DRTSRFR
        E30 Mastermind
        • May 2008
        • 1836

        #4
        Our race plates are not compatible with stock style springs.

        Our touring plates will accept stock, and 2.5" springs. They are also engineered with POSITIVE camber ability built in, so you can get back to stock camber numbers on lowered platforms.

        Mark
        Suspension tips here...
        http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/album.php?albumid=757

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        • DTMbimmer07
          E30 Fanatic
          • Mar 2009
          • 1485

          #5
          The GC camber plates wouldnt work with the 15mm drop hats. You would have to have to fab up a spacer from the top of the drop hat to the camber plate. I was planning on running the 15mm hats but ran into that problem, so i just went coils and solve my problems.

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          • mr.vang
            R3V Elite
            • May 2010
            • 4371

            #6
            Originally posted by DTMbimmer07
            The GC camber plates wouldnt work with the 15mm drop hats. You would have to have to fab up a spacer from the top of the drop hat to the camber plate. I was planning on running the 15mm hats but ran into that problem, so i just went coils and solve my problems.
            if your going to put in a spacer then whats the point of having the drop hat. i suggest put the stock hat on and run GC touring plate as they sit lower then stock mount which is more like the drop hat itself.
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            • MR 325
              Moderator
              • Oct 2003
              • 37825

              #7
              I love my GC Touring plates and they really are the best choice for a street car.

              Keep in mind they come with their own spring hats so you'll no longer use your drop hats. Your car will actually sit 3mm higher.
              BimmerHeads
              Classic BMW Specialists
              Santa Clarita, CA

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              • DTMbimmer07
                E30 Fanatic
                • Mar 2009
                • 1485

                #8
                Originally posted by mr.vang
                if your going to put in a spacer then whats the point of having the drop hat. i suggest put the stock hat on and run GC touring plate as they sit lower then stock mount which is more like the drop hat itself.
                which is why i bought coils. i had j-stocks and GC camber plates and a 10mm spring pad in the rear and i still wasnt happy with how it sat.

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                • N2MYE30
                  R3V Elite
                  • Oct 2007
                  • 5536

                  #9
                  Originally posted by GCMARK
                  Our touring plates will accept stock, and 2.5" springs. They are also engineered with POSITIVE camber ability built in, so you can get back to stock camber numbers on lowered platforms.

                  Mark
                  I was reading that the tourings had quite a bit of positive adjustment.

                  Originally posted by mr.vang
                  i suggest put the stock hat on and run GC touring plate as they sit lower then stock mount which is more like the drop hat itself.
                  So do they come with a stock hat or do they come with a GC hat? I still have my stock ones if I need to use them.

                  Originally posted by MR 325
                  Keep in mind they come with their own spring hats so you'll no longer use your drop hats. Your car will actually sit 3mm higher.
                  I have yet to come up with a visual representation of the touring setup....Correction? Is this it?

                  3mm I can prolly live with...after the $300 shock of plates! Any body have them used?;)

                  COTM

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                  • DRTSRFR
                    E30 Mastermind
                    • May 2008
                    • 1836

                    #10
                    Haha, those are the actual plates I have in my 'vert minus the stock perches. Still goin strong 2 years later.

                    The Touring plates are supplied with your choice of perches, either stock or 2.5".

                    Here's a newer look. The newest batch has a circle engraved around the logo so they can be easily referenced to the stock position.

                    Crappy cell phone pic...
                    Attached Files
                    Suspension tips here...
                    http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/album.php?albumid=757

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                    • AE86
                      Wrencher
                      • Oct 2010
                      • 272

                      #11
                      Someone help me out here, but isn't there a fixed plate or strut mount that can be flip/flop'd to give you +5 or -5 camber?
                      WTB: Diamond Schwartz Hood

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                      • SkiFree
                        R3VLimited
                        • Jun 2011
                        • 2766

                        #12
                        Originally posted by AE86
                        Someone help me out here, but isn't there a fixed plate or strut mount that can be flip/flop'd to give you +5 or -5 camber?
                        Think about it for a minute....


















                        And you'll come to the conclusion that you can't simply flip-flop a fixed camber plate.
                        ADAMS Autosport

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                        • AE86
                          Wrencher
                          • Oct 2010
                          • 272

                          #13
                          ^ Thought about it, and I was thinking of M6 (e24) strut mount which is fixed and can be flip/flop'd to give you pos/neg camber AND can be used on E30. Here's a link explaining it.















                          And you'll come to the conclusion that you CAN simply flip-flop a fixed strut mount
                          Last edited by AE86; 04-30-2012, 11:33 PM.
                          WTB: Diamond Schwartz Hood

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                          • MR 325
                            Moderator
                            • Oct 2003
                            • 37825

                            #14
                            There is such thing as offset OEM strut mounts, yes. Also known as "crash" mounts.

                            But why spend $125 per mount when you can buy nice camber plates for $200-$300.
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                            Classic BMW Specialists
                            Santa Clarita, CA

                            www.BimmerHeads.com

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                            • AE86
                              Wrencher
                              • Oct 2010
                              • 272

                              #15
                              Originally posted by MR 325
                              There is such thing as offset OEM strut mounts, yes. Also known as "crash" mounts.

                              But why spend $125 per mount when you can buy nice camber plates for $200-$300.
                              Yeah it don't make sense to pay $200-300 when can go with a camber plate for about the same price and more adjustability, but you might find a "crash" mount in decent condition at a junkyard for much less, anyone know what cars came with this from factory?
                              Last edited by AE86; 05-01-2012, 07:28 AM.
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