I want to INCREASE my ride height

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  • alexbaby88
    Wrencher
    • Feb 2005
    • 219

    #1

    I want to INCREASE my ride height

    I have Bilstein Sports and Eibach springs combo and the car sits a tad too low for my tastes. Too inconvenient going over humps and in and out of car park ramps. The Mtec2 front spoiler doesn't help.

    Whats the best way to RAISE my ride hide a touch (front & rear) say 1/4 to 1/2 inch?
  • Avus E30
    No R3VLimiter
    • Feb 2005
    • 3650

    #2
    From what I have seen your best option would be to double up on some spring pads, I would still wait for a more informed comment.
    Last edited by Avus E30; 01-05-2006, 04:16 AM.
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    • Jon '92 325ic
      Advanced Member
      • Dec 2003
      • 172

      #3
      I had a similar question / post recently

      The consensus was, short of putting in taller springs, doubling up on the pads.

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      • alexbaby88
        Wrencher
        • Feb 2005
        • 219

        #4
        Thanks guys I'll try that out.

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        • formula driver
          R3VLimited
          • Dec 2003
          • 2263

          #5
          Yea thats your best option. If you have no desire to get different spring's then just stack spring pads. Im not sure how many you could get away with. but If you wanted to raise the car a full 1/2 an inch you might have to use several pads. I have no experience doing this so maybe someone that has can chime in and let you know how many pads you could get away with. On a side note, Im sure there are plenty of people selling pads here for cheap. HTH

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          • ///M42 sport
            No R3VLimiter
            • Oct 2003
            • 3952

            #6
            Originally posted by alexbaby88
            I have Bilstein Sports and Eibach springs combo and the car sits a tad too low for my tastes. Too inconvenient going over humps and in and out of car park ramps. The Mtec2 front spoiler doesn't help.

            Whats the best way to RAISE my ride hide a touch (front & rear) say 1/4 to 1/2 inch?
            Is this even possible, I've never heard of such a request. Dumbfounded.
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            • Axxe
              No R3VLimiter
              • Aug 2004
              • 3355

              #7
              Originally posted by ///M42 sport
              Is this even possible, I've never heard of such a request. Dumbfounded.
              Yes, it is. Doesn't take much to dumbfound you, does it ;)



              Also, those are the most shitball springs you can put in an E30. They suck. Put in some real springs if you don't want to wreck your car.


              Keep it slideways!!

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              • AdironRider
                No R3VLimiter
                • Dec 2004
                • 3491

                #8
                Im siding with raising my car after my recent woes with my oil pan. I cant deal with a slammed car in the Northeast. Its to bad as I love the stance and the ride of the cup kit.
                Back to my roots

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                • Old'n'Slow
                  E30 Addict
                  • Nov 2003
                  • 436

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Axxe
                  Yes, it is. Doesn't take much to dumbfound you, does it ;)



                  Also, those are the most shitball springs you can put in an E30. They suck. Put in some real springs if you don't want to wreck your car.
                  Upon what do you base this assertion, oh enlightened one? And please don't say "everyone says so" or something else not based on any real evidence of shortcoming.

                  Gee, I've had a Cup Kit, H&R OE Sports, and Eibachs and I prefer the Eibachs. And, even more amazing, after a year of spirited driving, my car's not wrecked!

                  What, pray tell, do you consider real springs?

                  Back on topic....

                  Short of buying my H&R OE Sport springs(only 1" of drop) for $125 shipped, stacking pads will get you 1/4 to 3/8 but after that, it's back to stock for any significant lift...

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                  • asubimmer
                    R3V OG
                    • Jul 2004
                    • 6482

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Old'n'Slow
                    real springs?
                    umm....gc's, group n's, h&r's

                    Eibachs suck...they are just terrible...prob as bad as the intrex ones
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                    • Old'n'Slow
                      E30 Addict
                      • Nov 2003
                      • 436

                      #11
                      Originally posted by asubimmer
                      umm....gc's, group n's, h&r's

                      Eibachs suck...they are just terrible...prob as bad as the intrex ones
                      OK.

                      I understand some of you don't like Eibach springs.

                      Why don't you like them?

                      Your answer was like somebody telling me they don't like vanilla ice cream, therefore it sucks.

                      Your answer is of no use unless you seek to inform of exactly what characteristics lead you to believe they're so bad.

                      BTW, GC springs are made by Eibach! :razz:

                      You didn't say whose group n spring. There are several companies that make a spring suitable for Group N competition. AFAIK, Group N is a class, not a brand name.

                      BTW, I've had 2 sets of H&Rs. Due to the uneven lowering and quick rusting of the springs, I decided to go with something else. That statement constitutes a tangible reason. Unlike "I had H&Rs and they were shit".

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                      • Mystikal
                        Moderator
                        Wheel Fitment Expert
                        • Nov 2003
                        • 9602

                        #12
                        Because the spring rate is about the same as a stock M3, but leaves the car with 1" of suspension travel. If those rates were correct for a car with 3-4" of travel, I think they may be a bit off for 1", no?

                        Terrible design.

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                        • asubimmer
                          R3V OG
                          • Jul 2004
                          • 6482

                          #13
                          even though gc's are made by Eibach...they are not crappy like the sport or pro kit they sell under their name...Mystical is right...and there is no need to explain b/c they SUCK...end of story
                          ///Alpinweiß II 24v 91' 318is, Alpinweiß III 99' 323i, 04' Yamaha R6 SE for sale, 00' VW GTi, 83' El Camino BURNED, 01' P71sold, 92' Miatasold

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                          • e30Matt
                            R3V Elite
                            • Dec 2003
                            • 5077

                            #14
                            Does the shit have to hit the fan in every thread around here?

                            As for information regarding your ride height issue, I'd agree with the rest of the people here and double up on your pads. You can get them in two thicknesses (3mm and 9mm) in the front and three thickness (5mm, 7.5mm and 10mm) for the lower rear pad from the dealer, so almost anything's possible as far as raising your car up a tad.

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                            • Old'n'Slow
                              E30 Addict
                              • Nov 2003
                              • 436

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Mystikal
                              Because the spring rate is about the same as a stock M3, but leaves the car with 1" of suspension travel. If those rates were correct for a car with 3-4" of travel, I think they may be a bit off for 1", no?

                              Terrible design.
                              First, I'm not flaming anyone, just crave info, but I can't help but respond to this in a "tongue-in-cheek" fashion...

                              You mean I've been running around with about the same amount of suspension travel an F1 car has? I feel so...so....fuh raze! :razz:

                              OK, back on topic, so what do you recommend to our original poster should he desire a change of springs? I'm going to bet he's not going to spend $1500+ on springs and shocks so let's rule out coilovers. H&R offers a similar drop, but is it significantly stiffer? According to your above example, it would certainly need to be to effectively deal with, let's see, Eibach's front drop is @1.6" and H&R's front drop is @1.3"; what is now 1.3" of suspension travel. (Eibach's inch plus H&R's extra .3")

                              I don't know where you got that suspension travel measurement, but there's more to suspension travel than just jounce. Hell, my wheel goes down more than an inch when I jack up the front end. The car goes up more than 2 inches before the wheel ever leaves the ground. So, total travel(adding back in your "1 inch") must be greater than 3" as is...

                              Also, as an anecdote, I often take this car on 9 hour freeway trips to Atlanta with wife and 2 kids and commensurate luggage. Guess what? It doesn't run out of travel! And my Konis aren't set on STUN either, so...you wanna try again with that suspension travel estimate? Sorry, but those numbers you threw out need more support. Taken on their own merit, they are not very logical.

                              On the track, I would not run a Pro-Kit...but I don't drive this car on the track.

                              Originally posted by asubimmer
                              ...and there is no need to explain b/c they SUCK...end of story
                              :roll: That's rich!

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