Figuring out springrates on unknown springs

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  • karmatose
    Advanced Member
    • Sep 2011
    • 114

    #1

    Figuring out springrates on unknown springs

    I posted this in someone's FS thread where they had a set of springs they knew nothing about. I thought it might come in handy for someone else so I figure'd I'd throw it where it'd get more exposure as well.

    Anyway, say you have some springs you don't know anything about kicking around and you want to figure out the spring rate. Here's some maths you can do to figure it out. Use callipers when working this out.

    We'll need all of these things:

    G=Torsional modules for steel (11.25 x 10^6 or 11,250.000)
    d=Wire diameter in inches
    8=A constant for all coil springs
    N=Number of active coils
    D=Mean coil diameter in inches
    x=Inside diameter of the spring

    G and 8 are already figured out above. Figuring out the number of active coils should just be a matter of counting the coils on your spring. d and x can be determined with your calipers. The only thing left on that list to figure out is D.

    To determine D you need to do this:

    (x+(x+(2*d)))/2

    Now we have everything we need to figure out the spring rate. Work it like this:

    (G*d^4)/(8*N*D^3)=spring rate

    Hopefully this helps someone.

    One thing to note, this won't work with progressive springs or springs made of exotic materials (to the best of my knowledge).
    "She may not look like much, but she's got it where it counts, kid. I've made a lot of special modifications myself. " - Han Solo
  • kronus
    R3V OG
    • Apr 2008
    • 13005

    #2
    would be neat to do these measurements to various e30 aftermarket springs and compare to vendor-claimed rates, but I suspect a lot of them are progressive-rate.
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    • mr ilia
      E30 Addict
      • May 2011
      • 582

      #3
      Very handy, will use it next I need to buy lowering springs I know nothing about!

      /jk

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      • karmatose
        Advanced Member
        • Sep 2011
        • 114

        #4
        Originally posted by kronus
        would be neat to do these measurements to various e30 aftermarket springs and compare to vendor-claimed rates, but I suspect a lot of them are progressive-rate.
        I'd imagine this to be the case too. The H&R Cup Kit on my car right now is barely noticeably progressive. Just enough you couldn't actually measure it using this method accurately. I did have some H&R Sport springs (the 29664 ones for the 318i/M3) and they were pretty close to advertised rates.

        Originally posted by mr ilia
        Very handy, will use it next I need to buy lowering springs I know nothing about!

        /jk
        You never know, man... You might end up with a chump/lemons racer at some point!
        "She may not look like much, but she's got it where it counts, kid. I've made a lot of special modifications myself. " - Han Solo

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