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  • raudonis
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    Originally posted by Bearmw
    By chance did you make two of those?
    Sorry but I ordered only 1 unit, I still have my drawing thou. I could get a quote if you are interested. I had to mark and shorten the DD section in situ (it was about 1" longer in the beggining) and drill the dimples for U-joint bolts according to the marks left from the initial assembly.

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  • Bearmw
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    By chance did you make two of those?

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  • raudonis
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    Originally posted by Bearmw
    How do you like it?

    I presume you wanted to retain the vibration or dampening function of the guibo or was it to give you some collapsibility?
    I have yet to drive it, need to refit the sump.
    I kept the guibo because u-joint angles are far from perfect and I wanted to keep some telescoping action in it. For example ALL of the Vorshlag racing shafts have telescoping action. Car is a daily driver. Other thing - car had original guibo from 1983 and it was in perfect condition even after last 2 years with no power assistance with full force going thru it. And I can always replace it with a solid piece of aluminum later.
    Here is how the finnished adapter looks.
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    Last edited by raudonis; 09-13-2016, 06:56 AM.

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  • Bearmw
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    How do you like it?

    I presume you wanted to retain the vibration or dampening function of the guibo or was it to give you some collapsibility?

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  • raudonis
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    Here is my linkage - I wanted to keep the factory guibo.
    Made a stainless adaptor to go between the guibo and 3/4" DD hole in the U-joint.
    Car is EURO 1983.
    U-joint is 3/4" DD to 48 Spline from ebay.
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  • Wanganstyle
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    Originally posted by jph
    Do you need E36 inner AND outer tie rods, or just the E36 outer tie rods?


    This is pretty well known with any e36 rack swap. Please read up on it

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  • jph
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    Do you need E36 inner AND outer tie rods, or just the E36 outer tie rods?

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  • jph
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    Originally posted by e304me
    I am running a z3 rack with no power steering, I think this may be better. The z3 rack was not made to have so much force going through the input shaft.

    the reason why I asked if it was and airbag car is because they use a different steering column, which has different splines on the shaft. Guess it may not be possible for airbag cars without custom work
    E30 airbag column side splines are 11/16-36. 11/16" diameter, 36 splines. Couldn't find this info ANYWHERE on the Internet but measured carefully and ordered this size u-joint from Flaming River and it's a perfect fit. Hope this info helps someone!

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  • Q5Quint
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    Ugh. My z3 rack started blowing fluid out the driver side shaft. Made it about 3 years in snow and salt before I realized the boots were torn... 2 more years until seal was trashed.

    Now we have so many options and so little time/money!

    Originally Posted by E30SPDFRK View Post
    Someone needs to measure the total throw and mm per revolution so we can compare it to the rest of the swappable racks.

    per. turn------BMW Part #
    - E30--------------36.5 mm--------32 13 1 092 335
    - E30 M3-----------38 mm---------32 13 2 225 556
    - E36 M3 '95--------41 mm--------32 13 2 227 191 *NEW 08.15.11 Pink
    - E36---------------45.5 mm-------32 13 1 096 280
    - E36 M3 96+-------45.5 mm------32 13 1 096 280
    - E36 Z3 M---------45.5 mm-------32 13 1 096 280
    - E46 (9/99-4/01)--46 mm---------32 13 6 753 438 *NEW 08.15.11 Pink
    - E46 (4/01-9/01)--50 mm---------32 13 6 755 065
    - E85 Z4 M---------51 mm---------32 13 7 836 844
    - E36 Z3 non-M-----53.5 mm-------32 13 1 095 575
    You the real mvp. Except when I look on realoem it is giving me 32131092611 which supercedes 32131092031 for Z3 E36 (12/1994 — 06/2002). Am I drunk?

    32131096280 is what it gives me for the z3M and a 99 328i so it looks like that one is correct.

    Rockauto is listing a reman unit for a 97 z3 with pn {#32111139315, 32111139316, 32131092031, 32131092611, 32131093885, 32131095575} which is an interesting assortment of your list above, but includes the 575.

    Gunna crawl under my baby and see what the heck I actually put on there years ago. You can fart and change lanes so I assumed it was the z3 575. Without power assist it takes both hands to turn the thing around town. Nice to know there is a fluidless alternative.

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  • Bearmw
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    Brian7 you have a PM.

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  • Brian7
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    Originally posted by 89325iturbo
    It's only around 2 inches between the u joints. I went with a total length right around 9-1/4 inches. But that can change a little on how you mount the rack. Some put the spacers under the rack oppose to on top.
    I still haven't gotten an alignment either, but like I said it feels pretty good. I've driven cars with depowered power racks and its definately easier then that.
    I wouldn't want it if I was daily driving but as a second car it's fine.
    Now if I just get to the the alignment shop to get the slight shimmy out I'll be good.
    Yea I'm already planning to swap my Z4 rack out. Parallel parking is rough with this rack and I have to do it occasionally. I think an E46 rack will be an easy install though?

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  • 89325iturbo
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    It's only around 2 inches between the u joints. I went with a total length right around 9-1/4 inches. But that can change a little on how you mount the rack. Some put the spacers under the rack oppose to on top.
    I still haven't gotten an alignment either, but like I said it feels pretty good. I've driven cars with depowered power racks and its definately easier then that.
    I wouldn't want it if I was daily driving but as a second car it's fine.
    Now if I just get to the the alignment shop to get the slight shimmy out I'll be good.

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  • jph
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    Originally posted by Bearmw
    So this looks too short to allow for any kind of collapsible shaft?
    I had Arc Asylum build me a collapsible shaft for my Z4 rack swap. Haven't had a chance to test fit it yet, but it's pretty short and definitely collapsible. I'll keep this thread updated but it may be a while before I get mine installed.

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  • Brian7
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    Originally posted by Bearmw
    So this looks too short to allow for any kind of collapsible shaft?
    Correct. Next time I climb under there I'll measure how much distance there is between the u joints but its just enough to use the stock bearing slider.

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  • Bearmw
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    So this looks too short to allow for any kind of collapsible shaft?

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