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  • erik325i
    No R3VLimiter
    • Jan 2005
    • 3567

    #1

    Cup Kit

    Does anybody know what the spring rate for the H&R Cup Kit is compared to the Sport springs?

    How would the Cup Kit springs matched with Koni shocks ride?

    Thanks.

    -Erik
  • Mystikal
    Moderator
    Wheel Fitment Expert
    • Nov 2003
    • 9602

    #2
    Springs don't affect ride quality significantly, unless they are too short and/or too soft to keep the car off the bumpstops.

    Get something stiffer. For slammed, think IE.

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    • erik325i
      No R3VLimiter
      • Jan 2005
      • 3567

      #3
      Originally posted by Mystikal
      Springs don't affect ride quality significantly, unless they are too short and/or too soft to keep the car off the bumpstops.

      Get something stiffer. For slammed, think IE.
      I have H&R sports on my car right now, that I am pretty happy with. I may switch to the IE springs later.

      My brother was thinking about getting a set of the Cup Kit springs though for his car. The Cup Kit shocks are blown, but I also have a lead on a set of Koni's.

      Does anybody know the spring rate of the Cup Kit springs?

      -Erik

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      • E304life
        Advanced Member
        • Jul 2005
        • 123

        #4
        I would also like to know the springs rates of the cup kit.

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        • IS
          Grease Monkey
          • Jul 2005
          • 366

          #5
          They are low - less than 182/343 (h&r sport rates). They have a ridiculous drop too - I wouldn't even consider h&r cup kit if it was free.
          87 325IS - Delphin Grey/Cardinal

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          • MacBudd541
            E30 Enthusiast
            • Apr 2006
            • 1042

            #6
            I have the cup kit on my car, when i first lowered it off the rack i was very excited, when i first drove it i was extremely dissapointed. this is a very soft kit, it slams the car on the ground and nothing looks better but when pushing it hard the wheels rub the fenders before the "limit" is reached
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            1989 325i Alpine s52 coupe
            2003 540i M-Sport 6 speed
            2003 X5 3.0

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            • egk2
              R3VLimited
              • Nov 2003
              • 2426

              #7
              There are other choices out there besides H&R and IE. IE's
              springs give you a reversed rake, lowers the ass too much.

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              • IS
                Grease Monkey
                • Jul 2005
                • 366

                #8
                Just get Ground Control coilovers. They're the same price as h&r race, and you actually get spring rate choice, height adjustability, and ability to corner balance.

                There are also Turner J stock springs, but those are not streetable.
                87 325IS - Delphin Grey/Cardinal

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                • AdironRider
                  No R3VLimiter
                  • Dec 2004
                  • 3491

                  #9
                  I never rubbed on my cup kit, but I did hit the bumpstops at least once every time I drove the car.
                  Back to my roots

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                  • japspecvr6
                    Mod Crazy
                    • Apr 2005
                    • 602

                    #10
                    me either.......but i do agree there abit to soft.......all the bimmer heads around me always tellin me to get Blisteins

                    M52 |S52 Cams|E36 Rack Swap|GC Coilover Kit |. . . . . . . . . More To Come

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                    • diegom6
                      R3V Elite
                      • Oct 2003
                      • 4447

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Mystikal
                      Springs don't affect ride quality significantly, unless they are too short and/or too soft to keep the car off the bumpstops.

                      Get something stiffer. For slammed, think IE.
                      Uhmm...I think your bit wrong. Springs alone can affect a lot the ride quality of the car, I mean the comfort part. Personal experience. They affect more than changing sportier shocks alone IMO.
                      Euro M3'87 NogaroSilver/Euro E34 M5 '93/Porsche 993 TT 97' Euro/Porsche 993 Carrera 95' Euro/Skyline R33 GT-R

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                      • optimusp517
                        Mod Crazy
                        • Oct 2005
                        • 797

                        #12
                        now the question is, does anyone know where are some competitive shops around that might offer the best deals on a set of HR cup kit?
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                        • Mystikal
                          Moderator
                          Wheel Fitment Expert
                          • Nov 2003
                          • 9602

                          #13
                          Originally posted by diegom6
                          Uhmm...I think your bit wrong. Springs alone can affect a lot the ride quality of the car, I mean the comfort part. Personal experience. They affect more than changing sportier shocks alone IMO.
                          Sorry Diego, I am correct.

                          Speak to any suspension engineer if you can (which is NOT the same as someone who works at a spring or damper company).

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                          • E304life
                            Advanced Member
                            • Jul 2005
                            • 123

                            #14
                            Originally posted by optimusp517
                            now the question is, does anyone know where are some competitive shops around that might offer the best deals on a set of HR cup kit?
                            Tire rack is about the best price with out having a connection.

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                            • E304life
                              Advanced Member
                              • Jul 2005
                              • 123

                              #15
                              Originally posted by IS
                              Just get Ground Control coilovers. They're the same price as h&r race, and you actually get spring rate choice, height adjustability, and ability to corner balance.

                              There are also Turner J stock springs, but those are not streetable.
                              Blunt has a J stock kit and he drives that thing all the time with a cage and 17s.

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