Verts vs handling.

[Erick]

FWIW - The CCA chapter in Seattle just banned all 'verts for their track events. I can see other chapters and other car clubs adapting this policy in the future.

Keith

How the f*ck can they do that? Miatas are one of the most used cars in the SCCA.

[Mastrcruse]

I have heard that also that verts are starting to get banned and the same question came to my mind.

[Keith M]

The ban if for DE's - It was their decision (Puget Sound CCA). Even SCCA or NASA approved race cars included. It takes the responsibility away from the club of having to check and approve cages and roll bars in 'verts.

Keith

[e30xcel]

^ gay, basically they don't wanna work

[Dave]

FWIW - The CCA chapter in Seattle just banned all 'verts for their track events. I can see other chapters and other car clubs adapting this policy in the future.

Keith

Always been that way around here. No CCA Driving School around here allows 'verts.

[325iCabrio]

I've autox'd my 325ic about half a dozen times. I generally beat other similarly modded e30s that showed up. They were mostly inexperienced and I consider myself a shitty driver as well, but the point is that against a hardtop e30 around a racetrack, it's a drivers race. The hardtops aren't going to be running circles around you.

I recently bought a 325is as well. I haven't had a chance to really rag on it too much, still kind of getting used to it, but with identical suspension (H&Rsport/bilstien) I can't tell a difference.

People who go on and on about how the convertible hangles like a heavy, soggy rag compared to the coupe and blah blah blah are either grossly overexaggerating or talking out of their ass.

I think most people who have actually driven a convertible are possibly attributing their lack of confidence with an unfamiliar car as faults with the car. It's just like I can take local twisties faster in my 325ic than my 325is, because I'm more used to the convertible. Not because the 325is is an inferior machine.

I really love my convertible. It's a fantastic car, and very fun to drive.

That said, I will be selling it. I want to run on real race tracks, and the cost of the required rollcage + the inferior (though moderately so, it's true) chassis of the convertible forced the decision. Plus, my convertible is in too nice a shape to park on campus, take rallyxing, take camping and all the other stuff I'd like to do. I want something shitty that I won't have to worry about cosmetically.

However, if I was going to build an all-out sexy street machine, I'd definately go with a convertible. I think has much more visual appeal than the coupe. I'll own another.

Oh yea, and convertibles are 124 lbs heavier than a non-convertible from the factory. Not 400lbs or whatever misinformation might come your way.

Yes! Finally someone stands up for the verts! I think they're great cars; granted, I wouldn't take mine on the track without a roll bar, but they're just as fun to drive.

[PУCCKAЯ_e30ka]

what's the diff. in cabrio vs. "IS/I" sway bars? can front/rear be swapped?

[Wishno87]

what's the diff. in cabrio vs. "IS/I" sway bars? can front/rear be swapped?

the front cabrio bar is the largest stock bar in an E30. and yes they can be swapped but the rear one is no larger. front cabby bar and rear M3/ix are biggest ones.

[Erik j]

The true M-technic cars came with the same sways as the m3 and iX. The m3 just has different mounting locations than the vert, but that can be moded to fit.

I remember seeing along long time ago someone who was sellling a cross bar for verts that mounts behind the front seat right by the floor that is supposed to improve stability. Anyone else seen/heard of this?

[CorvallisBMW]

^ i would be interested in knowing more about that

This thread has me so excited about the vert build!!!

[Erik j]

From what I remeber it was just a bar that was put really close to the rear seat "step" and close to the floor, I think it bolted to your seat belt holes over the carpet too. I would get one and carpet it black so you couldnt see it.

Here is what people with mazda miatas use

http://www.flyinmiata.com/index.php?deptid=4538&parentid=0&stocknumber=13-69920%20%2090-97

[cactusjacks1]

Their was also a run of something called a "butt Bar" that bolted on near the dif. - it was supposed to be the hot ticket - anyone using one of these??

From what I remeber it was just a bar that was put really close to the rear seat "step" and close to the floor, I think it bolted to your seat belt holes over the carpet too. I would get one and carpet it black so you couldnt see it.

Here is what people with mazda miatas use

http://www.flyinmiata.com/index.php?...920%20%2090-97

[Erik j]

Their was also a run of something called a "butt Bar" that bolted on near the dif. - it was supposed to be the hot ticket - anyone using one of these??

I see those everyonce in awhile when driving behind civics and ford focus.

[mattdk318i]

I took my M50 cabrio on "Tail of the Dragon" and kept up in the twisties with NO problems. .
Damn i miss that car :(

[mattdk318i]

Are you referring to this? Ive had this in my favorites for 2 or 3 years now. As long as ive had the vert

http://www.strong-strut.com/Butt-Strut.htm

and for good measure: http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=96461