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    Koni: All top adjustable- Where do I get them?

    I'd like to get a list together of different places where you can purchase a set of Koni Sa top adjustable shocks, adjustable at all four corners….meaning that the car does not have to be dissassembled to make the adjustments...or that there are adjuster nobs at the top of each shock front and rear. I know all fronts are top adjusts but with most rears you have to unbolt it from the trailing arm to make the adjustment.

    TC kline has these 8041-1186TCK E30 & Z3 all incl. M, E36 318ti Rear Shock (each) External Rebound Adj TCKR Exclisive. $168.00

    and Ground Control...Looked but not sure if there still making them?

    read on R3V that someone thought Koni had started making them. Is there any one else that makes these at a more affordable price?

    Would LOVE a list of different suppliers/Manufacturers and prices.

    I just want to clear this mystery up.....Thanks

    #2
    The standard front KONI SAs for e30s are top adjstable. I have never heard about rear ones that are top adjustable.
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      #3
      TCK and GC definitely both have top adjustable rear konis. You need different rear shock mounts with a larger hole for them.

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        #4
        you can get the read adjustables from GC. i got them with my e30 coilover kit.
        '12 F30 328i Sport Line
        '91 SpecE30 #523
        '00 Ford F-350 Dually Tow Vehicle

        BMWCCA #360858 NASA #
        128290

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          #5
          Why bother? Koni's are only adjustable for rebound damping and the ideal setting will be a determined by the spring rates. Once you find the "sweet spot" there's no reason to re-adjust the shocks until there's enough wear in the shocks that handling is compromised.
          The car makes it possible, but the driver makes it happen.
          Jim Levie, Huntsville, AL

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            #6
            Originally posted by jlevie View Post
            Why bother? Koni's are only adjustable for rebound damping and the ideal setting will be a determined by the spring rates. Once you find the "sweet spot" there's no reason to re-adjust the shocks until there's enough wear in the shocks that handling is compromised.
            Is this true? I was under the impression that if you were to set the Koni's to full soft that the car would be much more civilized for daily driving and that if you set them to full firm it would handle better and be less...civilized?

            read somewhere about someone that would ride full soft when his girl was in the car for comfort and would crank them up for handling when she wasn't?

            Please fill me in...

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              #7
              i have them on full-soft now and the car is softer than stock.. floaty almost.. i need to firm them up. im sure spring rate plays into the equation but you can still tune the firmness depending on what spring rate you choose.
              '12 F30 328i Sport Line
              '91 SpecE30 #523
              '00 Ford F-350 Dually Tow Vehicle

              BMWCCA #360858 NASA #
              128290

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                #8
                Mustang shock....For the generation that came after the Fox body. $114.xx each

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                  #9
                  You need to understand that rebound damping is the rate at which the shock can extend after being compressed. The best handling results when the contact patch under each wheel is as large as it can be all the time. Excessive rebound damping will feel stiffer, but that's only because the springs are being held in a compressed state. Handling over uneven surfaces really suffers in this case because the wheel doesn't follow the surface. And the abnormal state of the spring results in camber changes. In the general case the smallest amount of rebound damping that is compatible with the springs on the car will yield the best handling. You want just enough so that the spring doesn't oscillate as it re-extends after being compressed.

                  A stiffer suspension comes from increased spring rates and stiffer sways.
                  The car makes it possible, but the driver makes it happen.
                  Jim Levie, Huntsville, AL

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                    #10
                    Ground Control Suspension Systems is your stop for high quality American Made Performance Suspension for your BMW, Honda, Acura, Mustang, Camaro, Mustang, ETC!

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by jlevie View Post
                      You need to understand that rebound damping is the rate at which the shock can extend after being compressed. The best handling results when the contact patch under each wheel is as large as it can be all the time. Excessive rebound damping will feel stiffer, but that's only because the springs are being held in a compressed state. Handling over uneven surfaces really suffers in this case because the wheel doesn't follow the surface. And the abnormal state of the spring results in camber changes. In the general case the smallest amount of rebound damping that is compatible with the springs on the car will yield the best handling. You want just enough so that the spring doesn't oscillate as it re-extends after being compressed.

                      A stiffer suspension comes from increased spring rates and stiffer sways.
                      In suspension noob vocabulary are you saying I'm wasting my time getting adjustable shocks to soften and firm up my ride?

                      Originally posted by SchnellerVert View Post
                      Mustang shock....For the generation that came after the Fox body. $114.xx each

                      http://www.suspensiononline.com/Shoc...86%20sport.htm
                      Are you saying that if I want adjustable rears I should buy these shocks made for a mustang but they'll work on my e-30? What is a fox body? and the picture shows the red shock? I thought these were Koni's comfort ride and the yellows were the sport?

                      In advance Gracias for the education!

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by DarkWing6 View Post
                        The standard front KONI SAs for e30s are top adjstable. I have never heard about rear ones that are top adjustable.
                        I have top adjustible short-bodied Koni's all around. They came with my C3 Motorsport coilover kit. I'm not sure where to get them individually though.

                        -Erik

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                          #13
                          The part numbers match, I have seen the TCK units in hand and there are no markings on them Saying TCK.

                          The fronts are the shortened race unit.

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                            #14
                            In suspension noob vocabulary are you saying I'm wasting my time getting adjustable shocks to soften and firm up my ride?
                            For that purpose, yes.

                            Koni's are great shocks to have and they'll work well with a fairly wide range of spring rates because you can tune the rebound damping to the springs. And they aren't nearly as harsh as Bilstein Sports. Even with pretty high spring rates (like H&R Race or IE Stage 3 springs) the Koni's result in a reasonably civilized ride and excellent handling. As as the shocks wear you can tweak the rebound damping to compensate.
                            The car makes it possible, but the driver makes it happen.
                            Jim Levie, Huntsville, AL

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                              #15
                              You realize that optimum damping will change with tire size, construction, and even air pressure also?

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