Ground Control Kit•Lame instructions

[E30Driv3R]

If you are using ground control's short koni front inserts you will put the spacer they should have provided in the housing first then the insert.

No, that is how you blow your new konis

[etxxz]

you need spacers in the struts otherwise the shocks will move up and down man...even with shortened struts....put the spacer on the top side and keep the shock from blowing or use bump stops but those are not for me

[E30Driv3R]

Exactly, i ment to type that lol.

[JRKOUPE]

....spacer goes in first.............then the insert.

Atl least thats what gc told me..and Ive run it that way for yrs...on the track

[E30Driv3R]

C3Motorsport has intheir instructions that you put it in last, because you will have very little shock travel.

By putting the spacer on top you have approx 2-3in more travel.

[E30Driv3R]

http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=80534&highlight=C3motorsport&page=11

I already went thru this in post 153 and the GC directions do say that you put the spacer in first, but Read what Slyder Says and it makes sence.

[JRKOUPE]

c/o's

I never saw that link......thanks, good general info.

But.....

there is now way how I see in my current Koni SA /HR race set up to put the spacer on top.
Im not saying Slyder is wrong..but I cant wrap my head around it....


One would have that much less piston exposed to use on compression wave. It makes no sense to me.

[E30Driv3R]

You might not have the Short Bodied konis?

[etxxz]

idk guys, the shocks i got from GC had kind of a long shaft so my springs separate a bit when i put the car on stands. so,

-putting spacers on the bottom give you more travel.
-^^but not really 'cuase once the car's back on the ground you'll have the same travel

-putting spacers on the top keeps your shocks from bottoming out.
-putting spacers on the top also keep the springs from separating as much form the shock/hat

[Jean]

And using bilstein sports with GC camber plates is a pita....

[golde30]

i run the spacer on top, its impossible to bottom out the shock this way. doesnt mean you cant blow the shock, just that it cant bottom out. and when you are really low like me, not bottoming out is pretty important.

however, cutting/ shortening the strut housing is the best way to go with short body shocks, its just not easily done. i had a shop attempt to shorten a set of strut housings i had, and they were completely un-useable when they were done.

vorchlag plates FTW BTW.

[JRKOUPE]

You might not have the Short Bodied konis?

I do.......or else the spacers would have caused major issues....no?

Im not trying to argue......but Id need some1 to show me this in person to get it. Im a bit thick.






I understand the shock may not bottom out.....but it would seem youd lose travel as well.

Sorry for not understanding. Im out on this one.

[E30Driv3R]

I do.......or else the spacers would have caused major issues....no?

Correct!

You really can put the spacer in the top or bottom depending how low you are going. I trust C3Motorsport more then Ground Control due to past issues with GC.

If you want to go low with either Bilsteins or Koni... Put them on top of the insert.
If you Dont wanna go extremley low put them where you want, i put them on the top since i am LOW.
If you put them on top with Bilsteins and go low you will be pretty much riding on the internal bumpstops.

i have a PDF file of the C3Motorsport instructions (Install is the exact same way) i can email to you if you want.

If you think about it with the spacer ontop you may have excess travel, i never checked, but since i am not using bumpstops i like that i have that little extra room.

The easiest way to not worry about this it just cut the extra part of the strut off, again it is not the easiest route, but probably the best.

[lagoon]

I do.......or else the spacers would have caused major issues....no?

Im not trying to argue......but Id need some1 to show me this in person to get it. Im a bit thick.

I understand the shock may not bottom out.....but it would seem youd lose travel as well.

Sorry for not understanding. Im out on this one.

From what I understand.. Less is exposed, but just because you can't see it (as it's covered by the spacer), it still has active travel. Whereas, if you put the spacer on the bottom, it pushes the shock higher, thus compressing it more- which would give you less travel, no?

Someone please correct me, as I too am now curious.

[JRKOUPE]

From what I understand.. Less is exposed, but just because you can't see it (as it's covered by the spacer), it still has active travel. Whereas, if you put the spacer on the bottom, it pushes the shock higher, thus compressing it more- which would give you less travel, no?

Someone please correct me, as I too am now curious.

....how can it have active travel?..the spacer will stop the travel once its contacted during compression..no?

W/ the spacer on the bottom.......the shock will act like a regular length shock in a non modified housing.


In a very much lowered car.....Id cut the housing an inch or so...and cut the spacer and inch or so...and still put in on the bottom