e36 front supension conversion

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  • diogo
    Noobie
    • Jun 2008
    • 34

    #1

    e36 front supension conversion

    I just bought a e36 325i struts brakes calipers hubs and control arms, if I use the e30's sway bar will I have any issues? I guess not cause they bolt in the subframe right?

    thx in advance guys
  • Hellabad
    E30 Modder
    • Aug 2008
    • 807

    #2
    the sway bar end link bracket from the e30 will bolt onto the e36 control arm.

    Jay
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    • diogo
      Noobie
      • Jun 2008
      • 34

      #3
      cool jay thx alot mate, btw I assume that this are the same as the e35, this came off a z3m roadster

      http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=330266890108&ssPageNam e=ADME:X:RTQ:GB:1123"]http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=330266890108&ssPageNam e=ADME:X:RTQ:GB:1123

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      • diogo
        Noobie
        • Jun 2008
        • 34

        #4
        I had my eyes on this z3m front struts are they compatible withe e30?

        check them out please

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        • Nicademus
          R3VLimited
          • Aug 2008
          • 2912

          #5
          Originally posted by diogo
          I had my eyes on this z3m front struts are they compatible withe e30?

          check them out please

          http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...Category=10374
          I don't think he ships to the USA?

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          • diogo
            Noobie
            • Jun 2008
            • 34

            #6
            NO NO NO they are my all mine masssster said I could have themmmm, my precioussss

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            • diogo
              Noobie
              • Jun 2008
              • 34

              #7
              struts wise whats the diference between a e36 325i, 328i and M3 I'm guessing they are all the same only brake diameters difer right? if nor peove wrong please.

              thx in advance once again guys, you've been most hellpful so far and guess what Santa is gonna be great for all of ya!!!!

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              • FredK
                R3V OG
                • Oct 2003
                • 14741

                #8
                E36 323/325/328 have the same front strut.

                E36 M3 has a different front strut. The spring diameter is smaller. There are provisions for mounting a long swaybar link to the strut housing.

                You are correct, the brake diameters are different between M and non-M cars. In addition, the steering kingpins / knuckles are different to accomodate mounting different brake calipers between M and non-M cars.

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                • diogo
                  Noobie
                  • Jun 2008
                  • 34

                  #9
                  what are the alternatives then using the e30 subframe and e36 M3 struts?

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                  • FredK
                    R3V OG
                    • Oct 2003
                    • 14741

                    #10
                    You can attach 325i/328i knuckles, brakes, and rotors onto E36 M3 struts as long as you use the 325i/328i knuckle.

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                    • Hellabad
                      E30 Modder
                      • Aug 2008
                      • 807

                      #11
                      Originally posted by FredK
                      E36 323/325/328 have the same front strut.

                      E36 M3 has a different front strut. The spring diameter is smaller. There are provisions for mounting a long swaybar link to the strut housing.

                      You are correct, the brake diameters are different between M and non-M cars. In addition, the steering kingpins / knuckles are different to accommodate mounting different brake calipers between M and non-M cars.
                      Also the geometry on the "knuckles" is different. (the strut geometry is the same) If you use any e36 knuckle on an e30, especially an M knuckle, you need a camber plate that will slide WAAAY back to prevent bumpsteer from rearing its ugly head. This is because the angle tilted rearward on an e36M is much more than any e30, so to duplicate the geometry to avoid bumpsteer, you should mimic the angle as closely as possible.

                      You know, I am wondering if the Brits and Aussies have a better word than "knuckle' . Knuckle is a GREAT word.

                      In Britain a fender is a "wing" and a cabriolet is a "Drop Head Coupe", and a hood is a 'Bonnet", but I can't imagine a better name than "knuckle"

                      Jay
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                      • Rogan
                        Wrencher
                        • May 2008
                        • 224

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Hellabad
                        Also the geometry on the "knuckles" is different. (the strut geometry is the same) If you use any e36 knuckle on an e30, especially an M knuckle, you need a camber plate that will slide WAAAY back to prevent bumpsteer from rearing its ugly head. This is because the angle tilted rearward on an e36M is much more than any e30, so to duplicate the geometry to avoid bumpsteer, you should mimic the angle as closely as possible.
                        good info, thx!

                        You know, I am wondering if the Brits and Aussies have a better word than "knuckle' . Knuckle is a GREAT word.

                        In Britain a fender is a "wing" and a cabriolet is a "Drop Head Coupe", and a hood is a 'Bonnet", but I can't imagine a better name than "knuckle"

                        Jay
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