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  • 91e30181
    Wrencher
    • Oct 2007
    • 221

    #16
    Oh and the clunk in the steering seems like it is up near the actual steering wheel itself, kinda like whatever holds it is loose. Just parking it my drive at 3 mph makes it clunk 10 times per foot, but it will never do it at speed. Weird, huh?
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    • jlevie
      R3V OG
      • Nov 2006
      • 13530

      #17
      Does the car exhibit this behavior if you let it coast to a stop?

      It sounds to me like there are uneven braking forces being applied that are only evident at low speed. And that rotational variation in braking is tickling slop in the steering/suspension. The first steps in solving the problem would be a full front suspension refresh (new shocks, upper strut bearings, control arms, CAB's, inner & outer tie rods, and possibly front wheel bearings). Next would be new caliper guide bushings if you have ATE calipers and OE or equivalent brake pads (not a low dust pad). If there's excessive end play in the front wheels after that (as evidenced by motion when tugging on a wheel at the 9/3 o'clock positions) the rack is worn and needs to be replaced. With the suspension refreshed the front end needs to aligned. Note that toe is a function of ride height, so if the car is lowered you'll need less toe to compensate for the camber increase. Oh yeah, also check to make sure that you don't have a bent wheel.
      The car makes it possible, but the driver makes it happen.
      Jim Levie, Huntsville, AL

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      • 91e30181
        Wrencher
        • Oct 2007
        • 221

        #18
        Nope, its only upon braking and not all the time...but still 80% of the time or so. Yeah I figured a full refresh was the call, but the problem is that the previous owner had done that a documented 6K ago with the right shit. It was all OE (older guy, very well off). So Im guessing urethane bushings with with H&R's + Bilsteins might bring me some luck, but Im not too optimistic!
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        • Hellabad
          E30 Modder
          • Aug 2008
          • 807

          #19
          Check the tightness of the inner control arm ball joint bolts, where they bolt to the crossmember under the motor. Use a 7/8 15 degree box wrench because it is easier to find than a 22mm.

          Jay
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          • twistednut
            Wrencher
            • Nov 2007
            • 272

            #20
            My suggestion would be to bleed the hell out of the brake lines completely flushing the system and grease the guide pins on the calipers and see what that does for you. It's regular maintainence anyway. I learned from my mechanic not to pump the pedal completely to the floor. There are contaminates at the very end of the plunger that could end up in the brake lines. Also I had to tighten the fuck out of the bolt on the steering column to get it to stop clunking.
            what you did to this car is like getting a supermodel naked and willing to do anything you please. now here you are faced with ths once in a lifetime opportunity and then you squander it by making her fuck you in the butt with a 24" strap on. you are a sad, silly little boy.

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            • 91e30181
              Wrencher
              • Oct 2007
              • 221

              #21
              Ok, so new control arms/ball joints/tie rods/urethane bushings/steerng rack are on order. Im will also tighten the fuck outta that bolt on the steering column. After that, I will bleed the brakes, but Ive never heard of that dont push the brakes all the way down, but I guess youre right! By the way, once the car is 100% in every department, its getting an LS1 with a 6 speed. My buddy is an awesome mechanic and one hell of a fabricator, so he really wants to do this. All I need is the spare 4 to 5 grand to buy a wrecked donor GTO!
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              • DCColegrove
                Banned
                • Dec 2007
                • 2748

                #22
                Check your sub-frame mounting bolts.

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                • 91e30181
                  Wrencher
                  • Oct 2007
                  • 221

                  #23
                  Yep, got all new subframe bushings and what not on the way as well. Lets just hope this all works. I will keep you guys posted on what it turns out to be.
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                  • e304me
                    E30 Fanatic
                    • Feb 2006
                    • 1374

                    #24
                    try giggling the the steering shaft around in the engine bay

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                    • ieatpeople
                      E30 Modder
                      • Mar 2008
                      • 883

                      #25
                      how will laughing help?

                      i think you meant Jiggling
                      Originally posted by BillBrasky
                      That's like Vlad challenging Chip Foose to a car painting contest.
                      Originally posted by acolella76
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                      • DynoTechMotorsports
                        Advanced Member
                        • Jun 2008
                        • 116

                        #26
                        replace the wheels, i had a similiar ghost problem on my 85 318is, the wheels and tires would balance fine, but it would shake at low speeds, so i replaced the wheels and all was fine
                        James Burger
                        DynotechMotorsports

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                        • kencopperwheat
                          King of Kegstands
                          • Oct 2003
                          • 14396

                          #27
                          This is an issue that seems to only happen on airbag cars. It feels like the steering wheel is loose under the dash.

                          Take the knee bolster off so you can see the steering linkage. I'll bet you $50 that if you grab it with your hand you can wiggle it. You'll then see a nut that joins the two halfs... it's very common for it to come loose. Just tighten it up with a BIG wrench and you're set.

                          Sorry about all the $$$ you dropped on suspension.
                          Originally posted by Gruelius
                          and i do not know what bugg brakes are.

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                          • 91e30181
                            Wrencher
                            • Oct 2007
                            • 221

                            #28
                            Thanks for all the help and suggestions. Once the car is out of my bodyshop, its getting towed to my other shop for the mechanical shit. That should happen in 2-3 weeks, and I will get you the results. It better fuckin work!
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                            • Heysüß
                              E30 Modder
                              • Mar 2010
                              • 911

                              #29
                              soo?.... what ended up being the problem?
                              09/1989 325i 4 Door
                              +M30 Swap
                              +Z3 Steering Rack

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