Changing from lugbolts to studs on 90 325is

[Maluco]

Well in my case, I will have to use longer studs because of my wheels. The holes the studs/ lug bolts go through are to narrow (the head of the lug "bolt" doesn't fit into the hole of my wheels). So I am basically screwing nuts onto the end of a stud and then screwing the stud into the wheel hub. BTW, does anyone no of any negatives in doing it this way...


Quote:
Originally Posted by Axxe
You cannot do that. The stud needs to be torqued and loctited into the hub, and THEN you mount the wheel and use the lug nuts to attach the wheel.

Question:
Can I just have the studs torqued and loctited in with the nut on the end of it? You know what I mean? My nuts are locking nuts and are closed-ended and narrow enough to fit through the holes of the wheels...

[T.Dot E30]

you need something like these.
http://www.seffects.com/parts/GOR17015SD16.htm
Thats what you get for buying honda wheels.

[Maluco]

you need something like these.
http://www.seffects.com/parts/GOR17015SD16.htm
Thats what you get for buying honda wheels.

SHIT! That's exactly what I need!!! I should have consulted here first damnit! I was too eager to get the Enkeis on the first weekend of getting the new ride. It's also a pain in the ass to figure out what length I need. That has been a major PAIN IN THE ASS!!!! I also plan on gettin spacers soon so the reality is I should just wait, actually I have to wait unless I want to pay twice; once now and then again for longer ones once I get the spacers.... SHIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Modding, etc...is always this in relation to that but what about once you get this and then whaat about the other thing and shit!!!

[Maluco]

you need something like these.
http://www.seffects.com/parts/GOR17015SD16.htm
Thats what you get for buying honda wheels.

BTW those are defintely to short....

[2002maniac]

motor-force.com has stud kits with 17mm nuts. Should work for you.

[T.Dot E30]

BTW those are defintely to short....

unless he's using a spacer, they dont need to be.


But since he does plan to get spacers.

He might be better off going with longer studs, and these.

http://www.seffects.com/parts/GOR20732.htm

[Maluco]

No one has answered my question though. I already own some locking nuts that fit the wheels and I had a store special order me some longer studs. The locking nuts weren't too expensive and I can probably just cancel the order and ask for store credit but I would like to know:

"Can I just have the studs torqued and loctited in with the nut on the end of it?"

[rs4pro3]

even with the locktite I think eventualy the lub nut will unscrew it self from the stud(unless you had them welded together)

[Maluco]

even with the locktite I think eventualy the lub nut will unscrew it self from the stud(unless you had them welded together)

How can that be??? There are millions of cars whose wheels are put on by tightening a lug nut onto the end of a stud.... What the hell?

[rs4pro3]

Yes but on them the Stud is nice and tight in the wheel hub. What I think will happen is the first time you install them, and then go to remove then the stud is going to remain in the hub, and the lug nut will unthread from just the stud. Basically you are trying to use studs in the same way you use lug bolts.

[2002maniac]

no guys. Stud installation is commonly done with RED loctite. The will be very difficult to unscrew.

[rs4pro3]

maybe I'm just reading his post wrong. This is what I think he is trying to do, typically a stud setup is like this

One threads the lug nut onto the stud to hold the wheel on, while the stud remains screwed into the hub.

What I think he is trying to do is to thread the stud into the nut and uses some loctite to hold them together, then screwing the complete assembly into the hub


What I'm saying is even with the loctite I think eventualy the stud is going to start working it's way loose from the lug nut.
I still don't see how that is going to make the nut fit any better in the wheel, then just threading the stud into the hub, and then sliding on the rim and tightening the lug nuts.

[Maluco]

I still don't see how that is going to make the nut fit any better in the wheel, then just threading the stud into the hub, and then sliding on the rim and tightening the lug nuts.

This is exactly what I want to do! This is what I am asking if I can do... Sorry, I was copying and pasting from another thread and it probably wasn't clear.

[2002maniac]

This is exactly what I want to do! This is what I am asking if I can do... Sorry, I was copying and pasting from another thread and it probably wasn't clear.

ok, now I am really confused. Why do you want to do this?

[Maluco]

ok, now I am really confused. Why do you want to do this?

The 90 325is has lug bolts which are not only too short to go through the wheel and reach the hub but the head (lug part) of the bolt is too big to go into the hole of the wheel which is where it actually needs to go to tighten correctly. I could have solved this by going with a longer version of this: but I wanted to utilize the the locking nuts I already own (which of course are narrow enough to go into that "hole" in the wheel) so I went and had some studs ordered.

Now, this is where my question applies, can I screw the studs into the hub and loctite them and therefore mount my wheels like a normal stud / nuts setup?