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  • noypi2
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    Low tech Spring

    Originally posted by FireFight
    Update:
    I fixed all the oil leaks (valve cover and oil filter housing gasket) as well as the spark plugs.
    she is running great.
    not to take care of the 4WD look in the front.
    i meet a guy locally (Chris with a 535i) that hooked me up with front 45mm low tech spring for the touring. the rear has a good about of sag, so until i get around to deleting the SLS in the rear, the height is fine with me.
    he also gave me a front plate delete

    I'm interested if you plan on selling the front 45mm low tech spring. Thanks.

    before

    during

    after

    not slammed, but better then before. andmy lady is driving it daily so it cant be to low if i value the oil pan
    alpine gang

    I can feel the trans not wanting to shift in to the next gear randomly, so i have started to stock pile 5 speed swap.
    more on that soon enough

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  • FireFight
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    small updates, I do alot to this car but dont document half of it.
    it snowed for a day so went out and played a bit


    after that fun i decided to tackle the rear hatch wiring

    thats the only pic i got, but the drivers side had already been fucked with so i had alot of cutting and soldering.
    the passenger side was untoched but i found about every wire was snapped
    after that im happy to say that everything except the wiper works, which is really nice to be able to not have to use the key to open the hatch and be able to open just the glass and rid the car of the error messages.
    i did have to replace the hatch actuator, which was failed and would only open once a day. I snagged that and with side wire covers(i had to break to fix the harness) at my local junk yard

    also I snagged Austin!'s style 5s

    i have factory wheel locks and hub rings on the way but i like these wheels alot more then the style 18s
    Last edited by FireFight; 01-18-2016, 02:36 PM.

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  • FireFight
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    Originally posted by CarsonE30
    Just read through the thread, I daily a '94 540i and am supposed to pick up a '95 525it on Saturday. Is there anything touring specific that I should look for/concern myself with when looking at it or is it pretty much the same as the sedan in most respects? Thanks!

    e34s in general,
    -check the cluster buttons, you should be able to clear the trip(common problem, easy to fix)
    -saging headliner
    -Automatic is gonna fail, if it hasnt yet its a matter of time
    -brake circuit warning, I have got mine to not show up finally by replacing the LCM
    -Front bushings

    M50s
    -coolant system!!!!! make sure it has been done, if no records, plan on doing it when you get home.

    touring
    -Hatch wiring, like stated above there are two handles, one in the middle opens the whole hatch, one on passanger side opens the glass.
    when either is opened the rear light should come on.
    rear wiper should work and when turn off should rest in the lower passenger side, if the wiring is fucked it will stop in some random spot
    reverse lights and license plate lights run though that.
    -Double sunroof, try to get a car with out it, but if it doesn see if it works
    *it works*
    Great! use it often and grease everything every couple months
    *It doesnt*
    well prepare for that SOB to leak, i took a "Easy flow" clear silicone in a tube and sealed mine shut, i havent had a leak since, and unless i point it out, you cant tell
    -Rear self Leveling Suspension, im not a purist, so this is just mine option, it sucks cock, mine blew out, thank god i was close to home, but its soft and bouncy, its heavy.
    deleting it is very easy.
    -Sedan rear door cards will work
    -back seat is touring only, took awhile to find a good parchment one
    there is more but those are the main things

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  • FireFight
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    Originally posted by straight6pwr
    do you have any idea on specs for those struts?
    what specs are you looking for? I posted all the dimensions

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  • straight6pwr
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    tailgate is different. ask if everything on it works, lights, wiper, lock, etc. and check to see if all 4 struts are still good. 2 hold up the glass, 2 hold up the whole tailgate.

    also check if the double sunroof works or not.

    the rear seat and rear doors are touring specific, so check condition because finding replacements could be difficult.

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  • CarsonE30
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    Just read through the thread, I daily a '94 540i and am supposed to pick up a '95 525it on Saturday. Is there anything touring specific that I should look for/concern myself with when looking at it or is it pretty much the same as the sedan in most respects? Thanks!

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  • straight6pwr
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    do you have any idea on specs for those struts?

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  • stonea
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    Sub'd for e34 touring evny

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  • FireFight
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    Originally posted by Austin!
    Buy my style 5s, doggy.
    take monthly installments and you got it

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  • e30austin
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    Buy my style 5s, doggy.

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  • FireFight
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    Alright, so i recently installed JOM coilovers to my touring, the front was half an inch taller than i would like it to be, even with the adjuster all the way to the bottom. I wanted to be where im at now but at the top of my adjuster. Id also like to have more suspension travel at this height(and lower)So i decided to shorten my strut housings. I couldnt find a thread on how to do this in a e34, but using thread for e21 and e30, i felt comfortable enough to give it a try, but the problem was i didn't know what strut to use.
    After a long day of looking at catalogs trying to find a strut that was exactly the same except 3-2in shorter. the struts I took out of the housings ( my JOM ones) where Three different size diameter, slightly tapering down, the smallest section being ~46ish mm and the largest being ~49mm. i contacted KYB and they informed me that the largest diameter of cartridges they make is 46mm, which they said is the diameter of they're e34 ones. i asked them to try to find me a strut that was the same diameter but around 15-14 inches in tube length(stock e34 being ~17.625") they responded with part number 366006 which is out of a bunch if early 90s Audis, I ordered two in to measure and compare to the JOM.
    Comparison Photos
    (please note that im comparing the Audi KYB to the JOM strut insert, not a e34 KYB)
    Length of tube


    length of piston is resting

    diameter of strut

    diameter of piston

    length of mounting section

    **see below on how this will still work**
    As you can see, 4in drop is way to much, so to correct this I found that old Aircooled VW axle spacers and the same diameter as the strut and are a little over a 1/2 inch, so adding two to the bottom of the housing before I install will make up for that


    the exact measurements are as followed
    the stock strut tube length-447.675mm (17 5/8in)
    the Audi strut tube lenth-350.8375mm (13 13/16in)
    spacer size-15.43mm(3/5 inch)
    total length to be cut out(using two spacers)-
    65.9775mm
    or
    2.59753937in removed,
    but to make sure the new strut doesn't rattle around when the top is fully tightened, we will be cutting it at 2.8inch, so the housing will be a little more shorter than it needs to be and new strut slightly sticks out and it will tighten down fully(controlled error) and put more pressure on the strut inside the housing removing any wiggle room for rattling.
    also to remove a bit of the diameter issue use a BMW sensor oring (part number below) around the thin section of the audi strut.

    the thickest part of the JOM strut(which is very snug) is 49.58

    the o-ring on the thin part of the strut puts the diameter of 50.97mm

    below i will show how i installed it.

    Parts List
    -2x KYB 366006
    -4x Empi axle spacers 2252817
    -2x e30 style strut mounts 31 33 1 139 452
    -2x bearing dust shield 31 33 1 110 196
    -2x mount caps 31 31 1 139 453
    -2x washers 33 31 1 125 916
    -2x washers 31 33 6 776 760
    -2x e90 drop hats 31 33 6 764 093
    -2x bmw sensor orings 12 61 1 277 129

    I ended up having to run the e30 style strut mounts ( I believe its what early sedans came with?), the solid one piece that my 92 is supposed to have, the part that goes though the mount is to short
    **see picture of mounting length above**
    but was the exact same length as a early model e34 strut insert.
    (see thread about the changes in mounts over the years of e34 production run)
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    Once all the parts are gather time to tear things apart



    Start Fab Work

    First thing you need to do is disassemble and then the spring perch needs to be removed


    I used a large chop saw, this works but getting the cuts perfect it pretty tricky. using a hand pipe cutter would be alot more precise but it would take longer. making the first cut can be really anywhere aslong as its below the threaded part.




    next I made a template that was the 2.8 inches and marked with a sharpie

    after you mark it make your second and last cut. this piece can be tossed. I kept it around to balanced while i weld resting the housing on it.

    next clean off the section of metal that you will be welding. also you may find that your cuts where not a perfect right angle, smooth it out as flat as possiable and line them up. i used the old strut that fit in there snug as a guide to make sure the where as true as i could get it.

    Next Tac it in place, making sure that after each tac weld that the strut can still be rotated in the housing, getting you weld to hot and getting a bubble of it in the housing wont be good.



    next with the fill in the spots between your tac welds, the strut i used as a holder was blown and all the fluid had been expelled, so i kept it in, rotating it after every weld, DONT WELD WITH A STRUT THAT STILL HAS PRESSURE! the heat can cause it to exploded(worst case) also be careful to to weld to hot and weld the template strut to the housing .

    Using a grinding wheel clean of any slag or just to clean it up a bit
    remove the strut from the tube and check inside to make sure your weld didnt get inside the tube.


    Now put the axle spacers in the tube(make sure its sitting flat) and install the new strut, i ended up only using one of the axle spacers.
    now put the oring down in the tube, using a small flat head to push it down a bit.

    now install the retainnig colar(mine being my adjusters for my coil-overs) tighten down and give the strut a wiggle, it should be very snug and give no movement.
    primer and paint your welds to prevent rust!

    now finish the install of the springs, spring pads, spring hats, big washer, bearing dust cap, strut mount, small washer, and nut.
    the nut that came with my struts was a but to long so it didn't get in to the nylon section of the nut. it need to go in to the section to keep it tight, so go to you local hardware store and find a shorter one or use two thin non locking nut and but them up against each other


    I reinstalled them(sorry no pics) and with the coilover at the top i was at the same ride height so i gained about 3 inches of adjustment downward and more suspension travel at my desired height.
    problem though.
    My wheels where rubbing the adjuster.

    so i ended up tossing in stock housings and putting these in storage until the summer when i can play with them alittle more
    Last edited by FireFight; 12-26-2015, 10:40 AM.

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  • FireFight
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    little christmas present for my touring, ditched the ripped to shit rear seat


    for a nice clean set



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  • FireFight
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    Originally posted by noypi2
    Nice...what did you use to replace the wood?
    My car didnt have it factory so it was all a sticker so it just peeled off. it was tan under

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  • noypi2
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    Originally posted by FireFight
    First old roundels wont do for my child's main source of transportation, all the other babies would make fun of him/her
    front

    after

    hatch

    after

    now that was taken care of, the inner high beams looked a bit funny...

    after


    and of course a good wash.

    now some interior work.
    the steering wheel offered nothing in grip

    good bye, hello a wheel from Austin! 540i


    next the wood wast just to 1992, time to bring it to the 2015

    trash

    next the headliner needed some band-aid work until i redo the whole thing
    Before: choking hazard

    after

    i also tossed new rotors and pads all the way around.
    no pics, i wasn't in the mood
    Nice...what did you use to replace the wood?

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  • FireFight
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    Got my euro trim in, quick and easy
    I went to the local junk yard cause the just got 4 e34s one which was a touring, I was stricking out on LSDsor anything I really wanted until I found a 540i with mtech side skirts on it, one was already removed, but the other was stuck under the makeshift stands they have there. But I was able to do some sketchy things and got them both

    Again I took no pictures of the install but I was able to get all the hardwear and installed them properly with all the clips and grommets ECT

    The plan is to paint them next summer white to match the car

    Also went to my local shitty part store and got some chrome tips, the kind with 3 set screws, I shorten the , welding them together

    Cleaned the muffler
    And welded the SOBs on there, a little flashy, but I hated the tiny short black tips that where coming out of the back muffler

    Here is some all around shots


    Also the whole reason I got the wagon, I Introduce Carter Robert Ripley
    and let's just say he has been tiring hahah


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