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  • der affe
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    Technical
    • Dec 2005
    • 8452

    #1

    need flow rates for 850i fuel injectors

    here is the part number:
    0280150715

    i tried to google it, but i only find them for sale with no info.

    also do they make them in a 4 pintle design?

    BTW this is what comes stock in the Dbilas ITB's and i would like to get another set and have them balanced and cleaned is you happen to have a set of 6 on the cheap
    Last edited by der affe; 06-23-2009, 12:53 AM.
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  • der affe
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    • Dec 2005
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    #2
    anyone???

    how about an 850i fourm to search in?
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    • BlackSpeed66
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      • Apr 2008
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      #3
      www.clube31.com might point you in the right direction!
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      • der affe
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        Technical
        • Dec 2005
        • 8452

        #4
        cool, thanks!

        Dbilas told me that they were 42lb injectors, but i would like to see what i can find in a more modern design and i doubt they have updated the inj for the 8'ers
        Last edited by der affe; 06-23-2009, 03:51 PM.
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        • whodwho
          E30 Mastermind
          • Jun 2008
          • 1547

          #5
          They are 14.5lbs/hr - 152.4cc/min
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          • der affe
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            Technical
            • Dec 2005
            • 8452

            #6
            thanks.....and shitty!!!
            i guess the PO changed out the injectors to these, amoung other stupid stuff he did that i have had to fix on the car.

            i guess i am swapping in the 26lb'ers to see if it makes a difference on the power this weekend.
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            • whodwho
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              • Jun 2008
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              #7
              What are you running for management?
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              • einstein57
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                • Jun 2007
                • 10780

                #8
                26lb injectors is a lot of flow. Are you at least 3 liters? If not id stick to the mustang injectors. The are cheap and easy to find too.
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                • Liam
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                  • Mar 2009
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                  #9
                  Are they Lucas, black with a green(ish) stripe?
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                  • der affe
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                    • Dec 2005
                    • 8452

                    #10
                    the are actually 4 pinstil and rated at 28lbs @ 52psi of fuel pressure
                    being an "i" my car runs at 43psi. that should put me at around 24-25 lbs on the injectors.

                    the motor is a 2.7 stroker, 292 cam, mildly ported head, Dbilas ITB's (which come from the factory with 42lb injectors, so i am going by what the designers meant them to have, or as close to it as i can get for free/cheap), shorty headers, split second MAF and ARC-2a signal conditioner, no cat, cat back, cold air intake with heat sheild.

                    i am going to talk to split second on monday to see just how much the signal conditioner can shorten the pulse width of the injectors.

                    i also have a set of 6 pinstil 22lb injectors comming to me next week.

                    i do see a WAR chip in my future though.
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                    • der affe
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                      • Dec 2005
                      • 8452

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Liam
                      Are they Lucas, black with a green(ish) stripe?

                      no they are not the lucas disc type, they are actually bosch PN
                      0280155890



                      this was helpful to find out the flow rates and part numbers too



                      and according to their chart what i have is now is:

                      180cc per min 17lbs hour @ 3.0 bar

                      what i am going to is:

                      270cc per min 26lbs hour @ 3.0 bar

                      the worst it can do is run too rich and i can't adjust it to work. then i swap in the 22lb injectors and play with it and see how that works
                      Last edited by der affe; 06-27-2009, 06:55 PM.
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                      • whodwho
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                        • Jun 2008
                        • 1547

                        #12
                        That looks like a nice injector info page I will have to use it and see how it compares to the one I have been using:



                        They do show different specs on your original injectors mentioned...and really differ in the 2nd ones???

                        I am running similar injectors(26-28lbs) you will be trying and just maxing them at 225ish whp so you have room with those if you can get them to run with your current management but the 22s are probably a closer match to your current needs.
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                        • der affe
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                          • Dec 2005
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                          #13
                          that is the nice thing about knowing people who are not into BMW's, what is stock and useless to them, therefore free or close to it, is useful to me ;)
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                          • Red88
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                            • Nov 2008
                            • 1159

                            #14
                            Originally posted by der affe
                            that is the nice thing about knowing people who are not into BMW's, what is stock and useless to them, therefore free or close to it, is useful to me ;)
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                            • der affe
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                              • Dec 2005
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                              #15
                              i am actually going to be adding an M-90 to mine as well (i know that you are using the paxton) so if the 26-28lb'ers are too much for the N/A motor, i can use them when i get everything fabbed and installed.

                              i want to get everything fetted before i do the M-30B3.5 swap with the M-90, ITB's, EMS, and H2o to air intercooler figured out so i can just adjust placement and routing of the pipes to meet the new motor location.
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