The Official 2010 F1 Thread!!!!!!

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  • tg318is
    R3VLimited
    • Jun 2008
    • 2052

    #991
    Originally posted by Drew325is
    Interesting..Webber apparently finished the 2010 season with a fractured shoulder...
    http://www.formula1.com/news/headlin.../12/11590.html
    Yeeea! What a man.

    Also Renault apologised to the Piquet's for the whole Crashgate situation.
    Tim.

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    • Mafiaracers
      Grease Monkey
      • Jun 2009
      • 353

      #992
      4-bangers to be used in 2013

      Chris Woods

      https://www.facebook.com/munichmotorworks

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      • pharow
        E30 Enthusiast
        • Jul 2010
        • 1021

        #993
        I'm not sure I like the idea of everyone using 4 cyclinder engines. Why cant they let everyone build what they want. Put a cap on displacement and horsepower, and let them have at it. Not everyone is going to build a good four cyclinder. It did not say anything about turbos or superchargers. I just don't like it.
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        • hoseklamp
          Wrencher
          • Aug 2008
          • 214

          #994
          I'm most disappointed about the drop in r3v limit from 18,000 to 12,000 RPM. Those motors screeeeeamed. Now they'll just yell loudly.

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          • pharow
            E30 Enthusiast
            • Jul 2010
            • 1021

            #995
            ^Yea lol! I mean it is the highest form of motorsport. Why can't they just do like I said. Some teams would like to use 4's others would like to use 12 cyclinders. Cap the displacement, and maybe the R3Vs, and let them go. Why have it where everyone has to do the same thing? IDK, what do you guys think?
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            • 323iNathan
              Wrencher
              • Oct 2008
              • 232

              #996
              The FIA is all about cost cutting now, so if manufacturers are allowed to go their own way in terms of engine spec then one will end up with an advantage, the others will complain and push to be able to spend megabucks to make up the difference, defeating the purpose of the cost cutting.

              And I realise this happens to a certain degree now, but if the engine freeze is lifted or the new engine spec were to be much less restrictive it would cost constructors heaps.

              The resource restrictions will be relaxed at some point, meaning teams will be free to do more development, just not right now.

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              • Jand3rson
                Banned
                • Oct 2003
                • 37587

                #997
                Originally posted by pharow
                ^Yea lol! I mean it is the highest form of motorsport. Why can't they just do like I said. Some teams would like to use 4's others would like to use 12 cyclinders. Cap the displacement, and maybe the R3Vs, and let them go. Why have it where everyone has to do the same thing? IDK, what do you guys think?
                You're completely missing the point of Formula 1, and you even said it in your first sentence. F1 is the highest echelon of motor racing. If every team could just build whatever they want with no regard to money or competitiveness, the team that would win would be the one with the most money and the most powerful car, and driver skill would be taken almost completely out of the equation.

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                • naplesE30
                  E30 Mastermind
                  • Nov 2007
                  • 1830

                  #998
                  I think a cap in spending would be ok but lift the engine bans, and kers should have been around for last season. The manufacturers want tech that is going to translate into road cars more easily/ which turbo 4's prob will. Last year this was not the case, hence BMW pulling out of F1 and entering other more pertinent forms of motorsport, DTM and bigger emphasis on ALMS. I would love to see spending caps and nothing else. Let the designers and engine builders go at it. You have 200mil for r&d to use however you see fit.

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                  • pharow
                    E30 Enthusiast
                    • Jul 2010
                    • 1021

                    #999
                    Originally posted by naplesE30
                    I think a cap in spending would be ok but lift the engine bans, and kers should have been around for last season. The manufacturers want tech that is going to translate into road cars more easily/ which turbo 4's prob will. Last year this was not the case, hence BMW pulling out of F1 and entering other more pertinent forms of motorsport, DTM and bigger emphasis on ALMS. I would love to see spending caps and nothing else. Let the designers and engine builders go at it. You have 200mil for r&d to use however you see fit.
                    That is what I'm talking about. You can keep the cap on spending, but let them make the engines they want to make. It's crazy! I know some manufactures are good at making four cyc. turbos, some at 8 or 12 cyclinders. They can still make it competative by capping displacement, or R3Vs, or boost if you run it. That is all im looking for. I don't think that that is too much.
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                    • pharow
                      E30 Enthusiast
                      • Jul 2010
                      • 1021

                      #1000
                      Originally posted by 323iNathan
                      The FIA is all about cost cutting now, so if manufacturers are allowed to go their own way in terms of engine spec then one will end up with an advantage, the others will complain and push to be able to spend megabucks to make up the difference, defeating the purpose of the cost cutting.

                      And I realise this happens to a certain degree now, but if the engine freeze is lifted or the new engine spec were to be much less restrictive it would cost constructors heaps.

                      The resource restrictions will be relaxed at some point, meaning teams will be free to do more development, just not right now.
                      Cost cutting and racing do not go together!
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                      '87 325is 5sp
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                      • 323iNathan
                        Wrencher
                        • Oct 2008
                        • 232

                        #1001
                        I'm not saying I think they should. To be honest I'm starting to watch more Moto GP just because of this.

                        I just said thats what the FiA is about nowadays. I can see where they're coming from, I just hope they allow in season testing again soon, and abolish the engine freeze.

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                        • tg318is
                          R3VLimited
                          • Jun 2008
                          • 2052

                          #1002
                          wut
                          Tim.

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                          • SpoolnDaapex
                            Advanced Member
                            • Jan 2010
                            • 150

                            #1003
                            At least we have different engine builders.

                            As for the cost cutting. Look what has happened to DTM
                            M42: Because 110 feels like 140 :finger:

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                            • Jand3rson
                              Banned
                              • Oct 2003
                              • 37587

                              #1004
                              The former Toyota F1 team is currently testing the new 2011 Pirelli tires:



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                              • naplesE30
                                E30 Mastermind
                                • Nov 2007
                                • 1830

                                #1005
                                What do you think

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