Hey guys, I have a problem...need advice.

[619E30]

Take it to a body shop. Get an estimate. If its out of your price range then sue PO

[naplesE30]

Yeah I think you should "sue him" you jackass. You are def entilted to money for this heartache and pain you are suffering as a result of the smashed bumper shocks!

[agent]

You know, I thought it may have been...sorry man.

It's all good. I assumed a lawsuit would involve lawyers, but even if it's only $30 to file it's still not worth the time and effort... If the E30 community where you live is anything like the one here (and how I assume it is in most regions), and you sue a fellow member of it or a friend of someone in it, you may end up burning a bridge you need to cross later. Good luck however you decide to proceed.

[schröe30er]

Maybe it was like that for who knows how long, and PO was not aware? Plus when you buy a used car and don't do a PPI it's a gamble. Only paid $750 for it, so move on :)

I hear you... but whether it was like that for a year or ten years. He can work it out with his co-worker (original owner) he bought the car from. I hear you about the paying $750 and letting it go, and I have thought about that...but all the money knocked off was already accounted for, in other problems. If it can be fixed...cool, I'll fix it. That is why I was asking if it can be. If this can't be fixed is where I will have a problem, and would want heads to roll. I would not have paid even $500 for a salvaged vehicle that may be unfixable. Down the road if/when I sell it, technically "with frame damage" as minimal as it is. Would I not be screwing someone else unless I sold it with a salvage title? I mean we are talking about the frame here, not a fender bender. If yes, I am screwed out of money I have invested, since who the hell whats a car with a salvage title...? Altogether with the "repairs" and "purchase price" I've invested $2000. There is other stuff to do, but wondering if its worth it. I already feel like I couldn't even ask 2k for it, in its current form.

I am mainly pissed that it was concealed, if it was concealed from PO too, then fine. He needs to take that up with the original owner since it is now causing the PO problems.

If I had found this any later I would probably move on... but I just got this thing a month ago and I do feel like it was purposefully hidden by one of the two PO's.

Your completely right about the PPI, I just was not at the time financially able to have that done. Nor do I have a shop I trust here in Los Angeles...

[schröe30er]

Yeah I think you should "sue him" you jackass. You are def entilted to money for this heartache and pain you are suffering as a result of the smashed bumper shocks!

Are you calling me a jackass? If so...you dipshit. Its not smashed bumper shocks id be suing for, its smashed bumper shock mounts ie: frame? Can you read? Also, I wouldn't be suing him for pain and suffering you retard. If you knew anything about small claims, you would know you can't sue for pain and suffering anyway. I would just get money for repairs or some sort of compensation.

If you werent calling me a jackass then disregard this post...

[schröe30er]

It's all good. I assumed a lawsuit would involve lawyers, but even if it's only $30 to file it's still not worth the time and effort... If the E30 community where you live is anything like the one here (and how I assume it is in most regions), and you sue a fellow member of it or a friend of someone in it, you may end up burning a bridge you need to cross later. Good luck however you decide to proceed.

Your absolutely correct, but this is an older guy (not that older guys aren't into e30's) and he is definitely no fellow e30 enthusiast...he's an instructor at a one of the big colleges here in L.A. I don't think a fellow member would have hid this from me either... He sold this and got a used e46. When I called his car an e46 he didnt even know what I was talking about. He's fair game in my book...

[E30Nova]

Not trying to be a dick, but you got a car for $750, I'd say just move on and fix it. Can't be that much to fix, and there's even a thread with a potential fix.

Just sayin.

Matt

[schröe30er]

Take it to a body shop. Get an estimate. If its out of your price range then sue PO

For sure, this is the plan. I'm going tomorrow... I just wanted to hear if anyone off hand new if it was fixable so that I can calm my nerves a bit until I can get into the shop.

[schröe30er]

Not trying to be a dick, but you got a car for $750, I'd say just move on and fix it. Can't be that much to fix, and there's even a thread with a potential fix.

Just sayin.

Matt

No I hear you, that's if it is fixable though. It's not like I got it for $750 with no other problems. I got it for that price "because" it had other problems. The thread with the "fix" is just a jerry-rig, and a very creative one at that. It will have to do if it comes down to it, but I would like to get it fixed if I can first...

[schröe30er]

At any rate, I wont know until I get it looked at. I am basing my theory that it cant be fixed on what corvallisbmw tried, the fact that the other threads I have found have no solutions, and that no one has said "yes we can". I am all for dropping all kinds of coin on these babies, knowing well enough I may never recoup that dough. I am all for that, I just don't want to do it to an e30 with frame issues, as minimal (perfectionist issues) as they are. I might get over it eventually.

Another thing, I noticed some people take the thought of suing someone to the extreme. Small claims court is not that big of a deal. No lawyers are involved. Costs $30 give or take, and last 10-15 minutes. You go in, you tell your side and they tell theirs, you present proof and your done. It's like going to the DMV... Unless your the one getting sued. Just don't be a scheißer and you wont get sued.

I will take it to the shop tomorrow and get it peeped out. If its too much, or cant be fixed, and neither PO's want to acknowledge it and help me out, then I may just have to sue one or both of them!!! :eeek:ahhhhhhh. One of them would have to be lying.

Watch, the shop will say "ya mang, I can do dat for like twenny dolers!"

peace...
-B

[txtorquemade]

Actually in cali, unless you HAVE a bill of sale that says "as-is" then you have some options... I know the laws very well. There is no bill of sale for this tranaction. Also, I can argue that it has frame damage which in most cases can qualify for a salvage title. That it was not reported, that it was concealed, and then sold as non-salvage. Go ask a lawyer, you can sue for anything, you just need to know what to sue under. In this case I would sue under fraud. Luck is not needed... The facts will decide the case. If I loose, I loose... I am prepared for anything. I could go into how I will proove it, but I dont feel like it...:p It will be easier then you might think.

Anyway, I dont need legal advice... I just wanted to see if some of you would sue them too. I am mainly looking for possible fixes. Anyway, I didnt have time to go to the frame shop today. I will go tomorrow and see.

If you know so much about the law in CA then why are you asking for opinions. Sounds like your decided to sue (probably some dude that has no idea the bumper was messed up to begin with), so just do it.

If you only paid 750.00 for the car, I really dont see what your so steamed about. Sounds to me like your one of those people that has to blame someone else for their own stupidity - and clog the court system doing so.

While your at it, why dont you spill some hot coffee in your crotch and sue McDonalds while your at it?

BTW I do work in the legal "industry"... as it has become due to people like you that what to sue for dubious and pretty stupid, irrational claims. Own up! You bought the car. Obviously, its not your first Bimmer. You know the caveats that exist with these 20+ year old cars.

Grow up, own up and get your ass out there and just fix it!!

[txtorquemade]

[quote=schröe30er;1953795]Are you calling me a jackass? If so...you dipshit. Its not smashed bumper shocks id be suing for, its smashed bumper shock mounts ie: frame? Can you read? Also, I wouldn't be suing him for pain and suffering you retard. If you knew anything about small claims, you would know you can't sue for pain and suffering anyway. I would just get money for repairs or some sort of compensation.

If you werent calling me a jackass then disregard this post...[/quote]


I will go on record, I believe you to definately be an over litigeous, wannabe attorney JACKASS......IF.... you decide to sue someone over your own inability to check out a car prior to buying it....for a whopping 750.00.

In fact, the jackassedness of the entire prospect of suing anyone over a 750.00 is immense and it truly astounds me that you would even consider it.

[pureaudio]

You bought a cheapass car, get the fuck over it. Want to make sure this doesn't happen again? Take the car to a reputable shop and spend the money for a pre-inspection. What exactly are you expecting out of this? You are going to sue the PO for the amount the body shop quotes you to fix it which will be a lot so in the end the PO will have just given away his car? Trust me, never go buy Keystone beer, I wouldn't want them to get sued because you find out it tastes like shit.

[Dermeister3]

lol

wow. OP: just get it fixed, or move on. and stop double and triple posting. its even annoying me....