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  • ogbimmer
    E30 Modder
    • Jul 2010
    • 936

    #1

    Which ecu should I use?

    I know this is probably a dumb question but I am buying a 86 325e automatic for my girlfriend. I am going to be putting my 325i head and stuff on it so I was going to run it with my 325i ecu. however the ecu I have is for a 325i manual. Is there a different ecu for a 325i automatic, and If so what is it called so I can look for it.

    " WHY DO YOU NEED 300HP TO DO THE SPEED LIMIT?"
  • Rigmaster
    No R3VLimiter
    • Jul 2004
    • 3464

    #2
    same ecu for auto or manual.

    you'll have to completely convert it to use the 325i ecu, this means the head, injectors, engine wiring harness, crank sensor, AFM, etc, etc.

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    • ZM Blue Devil
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      • Dec 2006
      • 13836

      #3
      why is the head bad?
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      • matias88e30
        E30 Enthusiast
        • Dec 2009
        • 1110

        #4
        I think he wanted some hp for her girlfriend
        no more boosted m20, 91 318i...

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        • Chester
          Noobie
          • Jan 2011
          • 0

          #5
          Hi
          325i ecu is right for use here. Don't hesitate for using this.
          Thanks
          minneapolis auto repair

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          • Chester
            Noobie
            • Jan 2011
            • 0

            #6
            Hi
            325i ecu is right for use here. Don't hesitate for using this.
            Thanks
            minneapolis auto repair

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            • mikeedler
              R3V OG
              • Feb 2004
              • 6707

              #7
              this thread understand i not good so.

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              • Rigmaster
                No R3VLimiter
                • Jul 2004
                • 3464

                #8
                understand what I don't is 2 posts Chester did make however zero posts has he

                >>???

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                • CabbE30
                  R3VLimited
                  • Aug 2009
                  • 2358

                  #9
                  I can has translator for this thread i need?

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                  • ogbimmer
                    E30 Modder
                    • Jul 2010
                    • 936

                    #10
                    Im so lost... I just want more power for her then the standard eta has. Im already pulling out the engine and refreshing it and with my i head on it the compression will be lowered incase I ever want to do a small turbo set up also like 5 psi. I have just never had a auto e30 before so I figured I would ask.

                    " WHY DO YOU NEED 300HP TO DO THE SPEED LIMIT?"

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                    • ogbimmer
                      E30 Modder
                      • Jul 2010
                      • 936

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Rigmaster
                      understand what I don't is 2 posts Chester did make however zero posts has he

                      >>???

                      thats true actually think I

                      " WHY DO YOU NEED 300HP TO DO THE SPEED LIMIT?"

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                      • RainierHooker
                        R3VLimited
                        • Jul 2009
                        • 2026

                        #12
                        Ok, since no one else is gonna say it...

                        An 87-on 325i ECU (which is Motronic 1.3) will only work with a '87 and later engine harness. In order to use such an ECU you would need to change among other things, the harness, you plug wires, the distributor/rotor, and I think the Cam-sensor. Look up Motronic 1.3 upgrade in the technical forums for more details.
                        The '86 and earlier eta engine management is Motronic 1.0 or 1.1 depending on the year (your '86 is 1.1, and should have a -027 ECU). This is just fine for most appliactions however, the rev-limit will be 4500 RPM, much lower than the "i" head will allow. You can have chip made for your eta ECU that will raise the limiter, or you could swap the harness and ECU from the later cars for about the same money.

                        PS: before you put an "I" head on an eta bottom end, do yourself a favor and puruse the technical sections of this forum. Thsi is especially important when it comes to valve clearances with and "i" head and eta pistons...

                        1984 Hennarot 325e - 1990 Brillantrot M3 - 1938 Buick Special Business Coupe

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                        • ogbimmer
                          E30 Modder
                          • Jul 2010
                          • 936

                          #13
                          Originally posted by RainierHooker
                          Ok, since no one else is gonna say it...

                          An 87-on 325i ECU (which is Motronic 1.3) will only work with a '87 and later engine harness. In order to use such an ECU you would need to change among other things, the harness, you plug wires, the distributor/rotor, and I think the Cam-sensor. Look up Motronic 1.3 upgrade in the technical forums for more details.
                          The '86 and earlier eta engine management is Motronic 1.0 or 1.1 depending on the year (your '86 is 1.1, and should have a -027 ECU). This is just fine for most appliactions however, the rev-limit will be 4500 RPM, much lower than the "i" head will allow. You can have chip made for your eta ECU that will raise the limiter, or you could swap the harness and ECU from the later cars for about the same money.

                          PS: before you put an "I" head on an eta bottom end, do yourself a favor and puruse the technical sections of this forum. Thsi is especially important when it comes to valve clearances with and "i" head and eta pistons...

                          thanks for the help man. I could technically just take the harness out of my 90 325i also right? Im going to get a megasquirt harness for my stand alone so that shouldnt be a problem. And I will look up so me more stuff in the technical forum.

                          " WHY DO YOU NEED 300HP TO DO THE SPEED LIMIT?"

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                          • Rigmaster
                            No R3VLimiter
                            • Jul 2004
                            • 3464

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Rigmaster
                            same ecu for auto or manual.

                            you'll have to completely convert it to use the 325i ecu, this means the head, injectors, engine wiring harness, crank sensor, AFM, etc, etc.
                            Originally posted by RainierHooker
                            Ok, since no one else is gonna say it...

                            An 87-on 325i ECU (which is Motronic 1.3) will only work with a '87 and later engine harness. In order to use such an ECU you would need to change among other things, the harness, you plug wires, the distributor/rotor, and I think the Cam-sensor. Look up Motronic 1.3 upgrade in the technical forums for more details.
                            The '86 and earlier eta engine management is Motronic 1.0 or 1.1 depending on the year (your '86 is 1.1, and should have a -027 ECU). This is just fine for most appliactions however, the rev-limit will be 4500 RPM, much lower than the "i" head will allow. You can have chip made for your eta ECU that will raise the limiter, or you could swap the harness and ECU from the later cars for about the same money.

                            PS: before you put an "I" head on an eta bottom end, do yourself a favor and puruse the technical sections of this forum. Thsi is especially important when it comes to valve clearances with and "i" head and eta pistons...
                            I kinda covered the engine wiring harness bit, I think...


                            ;)

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                            • James Crivellone
                              Head Janitor
                              • Oct 2003
                              • 6300

                              #15
                              Originally posted by RainierHooker
                              Ok, since no one else is gonna say it...

                              An 87-on 325i ECU (which is Motronic 1.3) will only work with a '87 and later engine harness. In order to use such an ECU you would need to change among other things, the harness, you plug wires, the distributor/rotor, and I think the Cam-sensor. Look up Motronic 1.3 upgrade in the technical forums for more details.
                              The '86 and earlier eta engine management is Motronic 1.0 or 1.1 depending on the year (your '86 is 1.1, and should have a -027 ECU). This is just fine for most appliactions however, the rev-limit will be 4500 RPM, much lower than the "i" head will allow. You can have chip made for your eta ECU that will raise the limiter, or you could swap the harness and ECU from the later cars for about the same money.

                              PS: before you put an "I" head on an eta bottom end, do yourself a favor and puruse the technical sections of this forum. Thsi is especially important when it comes to valve clearances with and "i" head and eta pistons...
                              Close, but the ETA ECU's are Motronic 1.0 (No CEL, 021 and 027 ECU Tags, 27 had a removable chip, 21 did not), the 153 M20B25 ECU is Motronic 1.1 (Dual Board, 4 CEL Codes), and 88+ (or LATE 87 Builds) have the 380, 524, or 173 Single Board Motronic 1.3 ECU

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