help: 87 eta clutch questions

[gokepsgo]

Hey guys, I've been in need of a clutch for a while now. I've been putting it off a lot because of money and mechanical talents.

Now I have a good job and my bills are pretty much in order and I think I am ready to tackle this major downer.

Problem is, I don't know what is in my car and what I need to replace.
I drive an 87 325. The flywheel is most likely shot to pieces as I did abuse my clutch and the fact that my slave died one day and I had to drive an hour with no clutch, revving and jamming the stick and SERIOUSLY grinding gears the whole way


Does anyone know fo SURE whether my car has single mass or dual mass? I would like to go single for a better I clutch setup but I have no idea what I'm working with.

I have also been receiving a few pms here and there with part offers but I don't wanna get something I don't need. Someone please help me out!

[87e30]

If it's stock the eta came with a dual mass. you can buy and put on a single mass fly wheel pretty easily since you'll already be down there.

You should be able to hear if its a belt or not, sounds like it isn't. Hard to say what the noise could be.

[devon.818]

if you need a clutch, i have one for sale
sachs.
250 shipped

[gokepsgo]

I have a bmw remmanned for the eta already.. will a single mass work with the eta clutch or does it need different parts?? I'm looking to upgrade to something a little better then stock but at this point I just want it done.

[gokepsgo]

Does anyone know if the single mass flywheel can be put in my car without any problems/ additional parts? And is it better/ lighter because it is from an I car?

[lostatoll]

I'm so confused. Where is everyone buying these sachs clutch kits that cost more then 200$

I'm not trying to be a dick, but if I'm reselling something, I'm charging less then I paid, so I assume you paid more then 250$, I just don't know why.

one for my 535i was 160$ on amazon and this one is only 190$

http://www.amazon.com/Sachs-W0133-1599934-SAC-Clutch-Kit/dp/B001HRIU7K/ref=au_pf_pfg_s?ie=UTF8&Model=325e|171&n=15684181&s=automotive&Make=BMW|31&Year=1987|1987&newCar=1&carId=009

[gokepsgo]

That's crazy the eta and 323I share a clutch.

So if I'm not mistaken I need an I clutch, fly, slave... what am I missing to upgrade my clutch??

Or I could use the stock clutch and dual mass fly.

How much improvement would I get by upgrading? Will my car be able to make my new 15x7s spin or will a good eta clutch have enough power?

[devon.818]

I'm so confused. Where is everyone buying these sachs clutch kits that cost more then 200$

I'm not trying to be a dick, but if I'm reselling something, I'm charging less then I paid, so I assume you paid more then 250$, I just don't know why.

one for my 535i was 160$ on amazon and this one is only 190$

http://www.amazon.com/Sachs-W0133-15...ar=1&carId=009

who cares what i paid?
my selling price is my selling price!

[87e30]

That's crazy the eta and 323I share a clutch.

So if I'm not mistaken I need an I clutch, fly, slave... what am I missing to upgrade my clutch??

Or I could use the stock clutch and dual mass fly.

How much improvement would I get by upgrading? Will my car be able to make my new 15x7s spin or will a good eta clutch have enough power?

clutches don't have power....


I believe you also need the i starter to spin the i fly wheel...

[gokepsgo]

I know clutches don't have power.. it was more of a question of will my clutch slip from it not being strong enough a clutch. Like will the clutch be strong enough (power)..

[gokepsgo]

And that sucks I need the starter too.. I wish more people did this process that I could turn to. My phone is so shitty for the search feature and there's barely anything helpful on google.

[87e30]

Maybe stop by somewhere that you can use a computer and do some searching because I haven't ever done this so I'm not 100% sure.

I'm using an "i" flywheel and clutch for a 24v swap and I had to get the i starter. I'm like 95% sure its the same for you. Slave will be the same.

I starter
I flywheel
I clutch

As far as I know. Assuming your clutch comes with a pressure plate.

Clutch strength doesn't really matter i, e, e36, e46 etc if its a shitty clutch. Get one that is rated for the power. With an eta I don't think you'll have a problem. And with my eta breaking 205s free in the dry just wasn't going to happen. A stock i clutch would be fine.


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[StereoInstaller1]

Hey guys, I've been in need of a clutch for a while now. I've been putting it off a lot because of money and mechanical talents.

Now I have a good job and my bills are pretty much in order and I think I am ready to tackle this major downer.

Problem is, I don't know what is in my car and what I need to replace.
I drive an 87 325. The flywheel is most likely shot to pieces as I did abuse my clutch and the fact that my slave died one day and I had to drive an hour with no clutch, revving and jamming the stick and SERIOUSLY grinding gears the whole way


Does anyone know fo SURE whether my car has single mass or dual mass? I would like to go single for a better I clutch setup but I have no idea what I'm working with.

I have also been receiving a few pms here and there with part offers but I don't wanna get something I don't need. Someone please help me out!

OK, lets start with this: nothing you have described sounds to me like you even need to replace your clutch.

If it isn't slipping, don't fuck with it. "grinding the gears" has no effect on the clutch, nor does "abuse". Slipping it does, but you aren't a hack, are you?

You really should look "clutches" up on howstuffworks.com so you can understand what is happening in there with all the whirly bits. It is confusing at first, but get to reading so you can understand.

Second, IF you do have to replace it, you really should find a single mass ETA clutch. IF you plan on keeping the same engine management, you MUST use an ETA flywheel, be it single or dual mass (might not hurt to have a clue on that, too) as yours has 2 sensors in it, and without those, your car will not run.

[87e30]

OK, lets start with this: nothing you have described sounds to me like you even need to replace your clutch.

If it isn't slipping, don't fuck with it. "grinding the gears" has no effect on the clutch, nor does "abuse". Slipping it does, but you aren't a hack, are you?

You really should look "clutches" up on howstuffworks.com so you can understand what is happening in there with all the whirly bits. It is confusing at first, but get to reading so you can understand.

Second, IF you do have to replace it, you really should find a single mass ETA clutch. IF you plan on keeping the same engine management, you MUST use an ETA flywheel, be it single or dual mass (might not hurt to have a clue on that, too) as yours has 2 sensors in it, and without those, your car will not run.

Oh shit good catch. Totally forgot about the sensors being 24v and all.

[gokepsgo]

Well it does slip a lot, especially in the summer. Ill drive to 5k, clutch in, shift to second clutch out, and with enough gas the rpms stay up. I let off when that happens obviously but that's why I think I need a new clutch!

Thanks for the great info guys. I'm gonna stick with the eta parts.

All I need to know now is if the eta single and dual are interchangeable without having to change any other parts.