5 lug or borbet b's? Help me out, please

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  • cooperman
    Wrencher
    • Nov 2009
    • 219

    #1

    5 lug or borbet b's? Help me out, please

    I am facing a decision. The 1990 318i is presently on stands with the entire suspension and drivetrain pulled. I just picked up pretty much everything I need for a five lug swap for cheap (318ti trailing arms, e36 M3 front suspension and brakes, etc.) I have the stock M3 struts, but would need to get some bilstein sports. I have not pulled rear e36 brakes for it yet. Also, I am debating on whether to get new control arms, since these are showing some wear.

    I also have everything to really upgrade the car with a 4 lug set up. IE twin piston front bbk, new billy sports, new H&R sport springs, new bushings in rear, new strut mounts, e30 control arms, etc.

    Some of the parts I have are usable in both applications- Treehouse racing lollipops, H&R Springs, new strut mounts, e36 steering rack, e30 tie rods. I also have 15 mm drop hats.

    The car is getting an M30, which will likely be turboed at some point. I like the idea of a brake upgrade for all 4 corners, but the IE setup is probably sufficient. How much of an upgrade are e36 rear brakes over e30 rears?

    I am looking at some borbet b's 16 x 9 et 15 in 4 x 100. In general, I tend to favor old school style wheels. The trick is finding them in 4 x 100. But there are some sweet wheels in 5 x 120 such as the style 5 16 x 8 e38 fitment, and I am sure I could find some goodness in 5 lug. Still, it seems difficult to find old school wheels in 5 x 120 in higher offsets to run on a 5 lug swapped car. I don't mind fender rolling, but there is a limit.

    So, in summary- should I buy the borbet b's, slap on the 4 lug upgrades and call it a day, knowing it will all fit and be easy, or go the 5 lug route, knowing there may be some snags, but some cheaper wheels also? Would I be cutting myself out on the old school wheels in 5 x 120 because they tend to have low offsets? Also- there is the brake setup difference question mentioned above.

    I would probably sell the parts I don't use.

    Opinions? Thanks in advance. This is my first e30 build (e28 and e34 guy).
    Last edited by cooperman; 05-18-2011, 03:35 PM. Reason: added info
  • BMC227
    E30 Addict
    • Apr 2011
    • 448

    #2
    5 Lug + BMW 16 inch BBS = Porn.
    They call me the frog



    - E30 Alpina C2 2.7
    - E30 Alpina C2 2.5
    - E28 M 528I 3.5 (300HP)
    - E36 M3 S50 3.2 (Euro)

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    • MC Hammered
      R3VLimited
      • Jul 2008
      • 2076

      #3
      I was a wheel whore until I found a set and called it a day.



      My 1989 e30 s52 Touring... this is Betty

      My 1989 325i vert (sold)...this is Nina

      My 1991 M5 (sold)... this is Veronica

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      • alB5
        Mod Crazy
        • Mar 2011
        • 785

        #4
        Originally posted by MC Hammered
        I was a wheel whore until I found a set and called it a day.

        Oh my........



        1991 318is -> 2004 R32 -> 2002 Jetta TDI -> 2014 FiST

        No E30 Club

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        • 323iNathan
          Wrencher
          • Oct 2008
          • 232

          #5
          Yep def go the Borbets. 9J B's are teh sex!! haha

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          • CabbE30
            R3VLimited
            • Aug 2009
            • 2358

            #6
            I clicked on this thinking 5-lug but after reading I say do the 4lug upgrades and the borbet b's.

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            • Roysneon
              R3V Elite
              • Apr 2010
              • 4505

              #7
              4-lug bbk is likely lighter than 5 lug stuff. I don't know what you're planning for the car (track, street, etc.), that would make a big difference.

              If you already have a BBK then sell the 5 lug for turbo part monies.
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              I am a pursit now.

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              • kronus
                R3V OG
                • Apr 2008
                • 13012

                #8
                borbet bs > *

                these are the wheels I lust for
                cars beep boop

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                • ZekeTheSneak
                  E30 Mastermind
                  • May 2010
                  • 1562

                  #9
                  I would kill for Borbet bs. Makes my Ts look like kids wheels.



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                  • charlescho
                    E30 Addict
                    • Mar 2009
                    • 515

                    #10
                    OP, I got a full set of 16x9s and a full set of 16x7s

                    16x7s are for sale. 16x9s if the price is right :mrgreen:

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                    • Il Duce
                      R3V Elite
                      • Feb 2004
                      • 5015

                      #11
                      That cabby is gorgeous!

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