S/C V12 e30

[motorprestige]

So because my engine is tuned by Mark D'Sylva, it's now his engine?

not what im saying at all. mclaren totally revamped the engine to their own spec and put it in their own car. I dont even think the fuel injection/mapping is the same. Your car was only tuned by someone else for you, do you see what i mean?
:curse: stop trying to get me all flustered!!!

[Jarvis]

It doesn't matter who tuned the engine. McLaren contracted BMW to design and build the engine for them. Pretty much every component of the S70/2 was engineered and assembled by BMW. It's a BMW engine.

Present day example: the motor in the Lotus Elise is tuned by Lotus engineers, but it's still a Toyota engine - same one that's in a Celica or Matrix.

thats like calling usdm s50's ///m engines

They are Motorsport engines. Yes, they have a lot in common with a regular M50/M52 engine and almost nothing in common with the euro S50B30/B32, but they were still made by BMW Motorsport Division.

[motorprestige]

It doesn't matter who tuned the engine. McLaren contracted BMW to design and build the engine for them. Pretty much every component of the S70/2 was engineered and assembled by BMW. It's a BMW engine.

Present day example: the motor in the Lotus Elise is tuned by Lotus engineers, but it's still a Toyota engine - same one that's in a Celica or Matrix.


They are Motorsport engines. Yes, they have a lot in common with a regular M50/M52 engine and almost nothing in common with the euro S50B30/B32, but they were still made by BMW Motorsport Division.

what? the BLOCK? and the 2zzge in the elise is in stock configuration, lotus merely reflashed the ecu.

[Jarvis]

what? the BLOCK? and the 2zzge in the elise is in stock configuration, lotus merely reflashed the ecu.

Isn't that exactly what I said? :roll:

[motorprestige]

the motor in the Lotus Elise is tuned by Lotus engineers, but it's still a Toyota engine - same one that's in a Celica or Matrix.

no. And the matrix doesn't have a 2zzge. ACTUALLY if you want to get technical, the 2zzge was built by yamaha for toyota.

[Jarvis]

Matrix XRS and Celica GT-S share the exact same 180hp 2ZZ-GE engine.

Yeah I know Yamaha designed that engine (and a bunch others for "performance" Toyotas), but the point I was trying to make is that Lotus won't call it their engine just because they did some final tuning tweaks.
I guess a better example would be the Pagani Zonda: you'll read "Mercedes AMG" on the engine because that's who was contracted to produce the engine specifically for the car.

[motorprestige]

Matrix XRS and Celica GT-S share the exact same 180hp 2ZZ-GE engine.

Yeah I know Yamaha designed that engine (and a bunch others for "performance" Toyotas), but the point I was trying to make is that Lotus won't call it their engine just because they did some final tuning tweaks.
I guess a better example would be the Pagani Zonda: you'll read "Mercedes AMG" on the engine because that's who was contracted to produce the engine specifically for the car.

very good sir.:bow: i suppose you are the ultimate misc. car knoweledge guy around here. In that case i suppose you know the vovlo xc90 v8 has a yamaha designed engine as well, amoung others (taures SHO etc...).:wgaf: we are talking about BMW.

[IS]

very good sir.:bow: i suppose you are the ultimate misc. car knoweledge guy around here. In that case i suppose you know the vovlo xc90 v8 has a yamaha designed engine as well, amoung others (taures SHO etc...).:wgaf: we are talking about BMW.

In the words of a good black friend of mine, "You better calm your white ass down."

[motorprestige]

In the words of a good black friend of mine, "You better calm your white ass down."

Im portugese brazilian... ANYWAY, i wonder if BMW motorsport designed the v12 in the 760i/il, anyone know?

[Jarvis]

i wonder if BMW motorsport designed the v12 in the 760i/il, anyone know?

Nope. The N73B60, while having a lot of high tech features, is just a regular production non-Motorsport engine.

very good sir.:bow: i suppose you are the ultimate misc. car knoweledge guy around here. In that case i suppose you know the vovlo xc90 v8 has a yamaha designed engine as well, amoung others (taures SHO etc...).:wgaf: we are talking about BMW.

I was making a general point, which applied to BMW because you didn't believe me the first time or something... ?

Now I give up. I've given up on you like 5 times in the last week.

[motorprestige]

^^^ lol my bad, as i am a very inquisitive person. Thanks for the info on the 760 man, i hate to come off as an asshole in case i am, it's just i have been mistreated on these forums as of late. just trying to prove a point is all. i wish ihad the money to go to a track meet w/you guys as im sure i would have a lot more respect from you all if i did.

[325Projectz]

patting urself on the back i see...

No hard feelings man, just messin with ya!

[motorprestige]

No hard feelings man, just messin with ya!

Cool debate my freind!!!