BMW Recall....I love BMW

[BergerNJ]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-17514172

recalled a shit ton of cars just to be safe and make sure its working properly.....since no one likes a fried harness or entire electrical system, or the possibility of a total loss because of a fire.



Just think back when Toyota had "floor mat" issues with their drive by wire systems.....people were accelerating and throttles stuck open on roads when they needed to stop. All they did was make new floor mats and call it fake.


BMW shows indirectly in this recall how they respond to incidents, or problems with their products. They also show they actually do care about their customers.

[agent]

I'd guess that fixing 1,000,000+ battery cable looms is less expensive than a wrongful death lawsuit or the negative publicity surrounding one. They're simply (and correctly) playing the odds.

[Farbin Kaiber]

Now, should we initiate a recall? Take the number of vehicles in the field, A, multiply by the probable rate of failure, B, multiply by the average out-of-court settlement, C. A times B times C equals X. If X is less than the cost of a recall, we don't do one.

[Threehz]

Now, should we initiate a recall? Take the number of vehicles in the field, A, multiply by the probable rate of failure, B, multiply by the average out-of-court settlement, C. A times B times C equals X. If X is less than the cost of a recall, we don't do one.

LOL nice call Farbin.

[Nsquared97]

Just think back when Toyota had "floor mat" issues with their drive by wire systems.....people were accelerating and throttles stuck open on roads when they needed to stop. All they did was make new floor mats and call it fake.

Pretty sure that was proven untrue later on, just never got nearly the media coverage the 'issue' did when it started. Plus simple physics states that the brakes on any of the cars in question would overpower the drivetrain fairly easy, and a car mag did a test to prove it. 60-0 braking test with the gas mashed were within 10 feet of normal stopping distances.

But yes, it is cool BMW is being responsible and doing this.

[JTDay]

Pretty sure that was proven untrue later on, just never got nearly the media coverage the 'issue' did when it started. Plus simple physics states that the brakes on any of the cars in question would overpower the drivetrain fairly easy, and a car mag did a test to prove it. 60-0 braking test with the gas mashed were within 10 feet of normal stopping distances.

But yes, it is cool BMW is being responsible and doing this.

My dad drives an 07 avalon. 170,000 miles on it. no issues except for VVTi crapping out. Out of the 81 test vehicles Toyota tested (actual road vehicles that were reported malfunctioning) none of them showed signs of throttle failure due to "bad" floormats. People are just idiots.

[Nsquared97]

^Agreed. The article I read even tested a 550hp Roush Mustang, to see if the brakes could overpower the engine. It had an ubsurdly long stopping distance, (iirc 500+ feet 60-0) but the car still stopped.

Edit; looks like I was a bit off on the numbers, but here is the article for anyone interested:
http://www.caranddriver.com/features...d-acceleration

[OniKyan]

Your brakes don't need to overpower your engine. If the throttle jams on just turn the engine off.

People are stupid.

[Car Addict]

^ yes but people were saying that there was "an electrical malfunction" that did not cut out the engine power when the brakes were being applied.

As for your second point yes people are just stupid and don't understand that you can stand on a brake pedal.

[OniKyan]

^ yes but people were saying that there was "an electrical malfunction" that did not cut out the engine power when the brakes were being applied.

That's (auto)tragic.

[dude8383]

Just take a gander at how they handled the fuel pumps for the E90's ;)

[Massimo]

Your brakes don't need to overpower your engine. If the throttle jams on just turn the engine off.

People are stupid.

Or put the car in nutral?

[OniKyan]

Or put the car in nutral?

This too.

Not if it's an M20 though. Bye bye, rocker arms.

[gkobez]

Most cars now have an override where if the brake is on then the throttle is disengaged.

[rThor432]

Most cars now have an override where if the brake is on then the throttle is disengaged.

Um what cars would those be? Definitely not BMW, but still curious..

BMW is usually very good about getting things taken care of before they are a problem. An example of not taking care of them before they are a problem is the current E46 sedan tail lamp recall..