quick MAF writeup (UPDATED, PICS - 1st POST)

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  • rwh11385
    lance_entities
    • Oct 2003
    • 18403

    #16
    Originally posted by mspiegle
    holy shit, i didn't know they were actually updated ones!!

    contact TRENT (ApexEngineering) to get into the group buy
    is it out moderator Trent or another guy.

    I dunno much aobut apex, can you share the #. tanks

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    • mspiegle
      E30 Enthusiast
      • Oct 2003
      • 1026

      #17
      trent@apexengineering.com
      Michael Spiegle

      '01 Ford Escape / Daily Driver
      '99 M3 / Track Car
      '87 325is bronzit / wtf car
      '06 Daytona Triumph 675 / Daily Rider

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      • JPbmw
        E30 Addict
        • Nov 2003
        • 466

        #18
        is the group buy on the developers kit or just the smt-6 unit?
        '86 325

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        • mspiegle
          E30 Enthusiast
          • Oct 2003
          • 1026

          #19
          i would assume just the smt6 and a wire harness... that would be an insane deal for the whole developers kit..
          Michael Spiegle

          '01 Ford Escape / Daily Driver
          '99 M3 / Track Car
          '87 325is bronzit / wtf car
          '06 Daytona Triumph 675 / Daily Rider

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          • JPbmw
            E30 Addict
            • Nov 2003
            • 466

            #20
            if so could you buy these for seperate?, also do you really need all that or just the CD?
            Coms Cable SMT-PRO, SMT5, SMT6
            SMT6 Test Jig
            SMT6 Shorting Plug
            SMT6 Development Manual on CD
            '86 325

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            • skat 325is
              Wrencher
              • Oct 2003
              • 296

              #21
              Is there a way to update our smt6 to latest version ?

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              • mspiegle
                E30 Enthusiast
                • Oct 2003
                • 1026

                #22
                All I had when I did my install was the sMT6 box, and a wire harness. You don't need any CDs, jigs, or shorting plugs. In fact, I made my own shorting plug with a standard ATX extension.

                Honestly, the instructions for wiring are crap. All you gotta do is figure out which wires do what on the SMT6 (by looking @ the install instructions) then break out your bentley and do the rest.

                Yes, you can buy those other parts separately. They also have a TPS and MAP sensor which are made to work with the SMT6.

                If the SMT6 undergoes hardware changes, you would probably need a new unit. As far as firmware - i am not aware of an update program, but that doesn't mean one doesn't exist.
                Michael Spiegle

                '01 Ford Escape / Daily Driver
                '99 M3 / Track Car
                '87 325is bronzit / wtf car
                '06 Daytona Triumph 675 / Daily Rider

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                • gstuning
                  E30 Modder
                  • Oct 2003
                  • 833

                  #23
                  Those SMT6´s are units made for GStuning, not original ones,


                  I strongly advice you guys to get in contact with trent, this deal will probably not happen again,
                  Gunni
                  @ Prodrive / Aston Martin Racing

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                  • rwh11385
                    lance_entities
                    • Oct 2003
                    • 18403

                    #24
                    Originally posted by gstuning
                    this deal will probably not happen again,
                    :shock: I just sent him an email

                    So where can we get a TPS from if we need it?

                    And you still haven't share the pics of your with us yet! :( Come on Gunni, pix, pix! :twisted:

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                    • E30godz
                      E30 Mastermind
                      • Oct 2003
                      • 1524

                      #25
                      i think it would be nice to wire a MAP sensor for boosted cars.

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                      • rscheiring
                        E30 Enthusiast
                        • Jan 2004
                        • 1014

                        #26
                        I'm sure this has come up before, but any comparision of SMT6 to Split Second (either using the manual air/fuel ratio calibrator or the programable calibrator)?
                        A great pleasure in life is doing what people say you cannot do- Walter Gagehot

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                        • mspiegle
                          E30 Enthusiast
                          • Oct 2003
                          • 1026

                          #27
                          my opinion is that you can pretty much match the split second unit with the smt6 - but it will take a bit more work. Lets not forget that while the smt6 is capable of allowing such conversions, you can also use it to adv/ret your ignition and some other fun stuff.

                          I haven't worked with the split second unit, but i have a *feeling* that it would be easier to get a complete MAF conversion done EASIER with the SPLIT SECOND setup.
                          Michael Spiegle

                          '01 Ford Escape / Daily Driver
                          '99 M3 / Track Car
                          '87 325is bronzit / wtf car
                          '06 Daytona Triumph 675 / Daily Rider

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                          • rwh11385
                            lance_entities
                            • Oct 2003
                            • 18403

                            #28
                            Nice. Much thanks for the pix!

                            A few questions:

                            1) Is the metal adapter neccesary, or just better to use?
                            2) Did you air filter just fit on the MAF?

                            3) about the SMT6 wiring - how difficult? Are all the wires, or most, at the glovebox anyway? How does it compare to installing a headunit?

                            thanks a million!

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                            • mspiegle
                              E30 Enthusiast
                              • Oct 2003
                              • 1026

                              #29
                              well, some people might suggest stretching the the intake boot over the MAF... i didn't want to do this for fear of the boot breaking. Also, by using that little rubber tube adapter, i have added some length to the intake so it is sitting as far in front of the car as possible.

                              My filter just barely didn't fit on the maf, i shaved a few mills off the inside, and then was able to push it on.

                              As far as the wiring, ALL of it is in the glove box. There are things you can do that would require you to go out of the glovebox, but i have a pretty standard setup and didn't need to. The extent of wiring is splicing, and cutting/re-attatching some wires. That's about it... it is a little time consuming though. You'll probably spend more time finding the right wires to use than anything else. Here's a pic of my glovebox when i first installed the SMT6. It looks a little cleaner now than in that pic.

                              Michael Spiegle

                              '01 Ford Escape / Daily Driver
                              '99 M3 / Track Car
                              '87 325is bronzit / wtf car
                              '06 Daytona Triumph 675 / Daily Rider

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                              • rwh11385
                                lance_entities
                                • Oct 2003
                                • 18403

                                #30
                                Originally posted by mspiegle
                                As far as the wiring, ALL of it is in the glove box. There are things you can do that would require you to go out of the glovebox, but i have a pretty standard setup and didn't need to. The extent of wiring is splicing, and cutting/re-attatching some wires. That's about it... it is a little time consuming though. You'll probably spend more time finding the right wires to use than anything else.
                                you're da man for doing this first! :D 8)

                                I was hoping no wires would have to be run through the firewall from say the MAF, but it's good to hear you can use the wires that were used with the AFM. Now that I reflect, it was a silly notion, but better ask than be surprised later!

                                thanks a lot man.

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