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  • jaywood
    R3V Elite
    • Jul 2010
    • 4528

    #16

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    • CHIF8008
      No R3VLimiter
      • Nov 2010
      • 3447

      #17
      are we just repeating the same thing here? oh well

      you should make a 24valve m20 head!
      -FREEDOM- is cruisin at 80, windows down and listening to the perfect song-thinking "this is it"
      -The Beauty in the Tragedy-
      MECHANIC SMASH!!- (you all know you do it)
      Got Drop?? ;-)
      Originally posted by JinormusJ
      But of course
      E30s are know to be notoriously really really really ridiculously good looking

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      • tinkwithanr
        Grease Monkey
        • Jun 2010
        • 377

        #18
        If I ever have the spare time I wanna venture into the aluminum block and 24 valve head. Sadly costs would never be low enough to make it that popular, but it would be worth it just to say you did.
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        • BrownBeanE30
          E30 Modder
          • Nov 2010
          • 965

          #19
          honestly if somebody actualy took the time to make the 24v m20 head i would buy it just for the fact that it will make a shit ton of power mixed with other parts


          So someone please get on this ASAP!!!!!!
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          An S5x is like the girl you want to marry - an m30 is the girl you don't bring home to mom.

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          • noid
            E30 Mastermind
            • Feb 2008
            • 1529

            #20
            Originally posted by tinkwithanr
            If I ever have the spare time I wanna venture into the aluminum block and 24 valve head. Sadly costs would never be low enough to make it that popular, but it would be worth it just to say you did.
            Anything less then $2500/per head would be extremely popular. Most clean swaps cost that or more, and there are ALOT of people who do 24v swaps.

            100hp/liter is better then an s52 swap. Add dbilas itb and it would be screaming.

            I am willing to help make this happen. Including free advertising to 15,000/month worldwide unique visitors (mostly E30 guys).

            Originally posted by 91Saleen#15
            Have any drawings been published? I have a CNC plasma cutter. I'd be willing to make some.
            BruceBe on here is the only one that I know of that has a set of such mounts he custom made for his build. Shoot him a PM.
            Last edited by noid; 10-28-2012, 04:40 PM.
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            • tinkwithanr
              Grease Monkey
              • Jun 2010
              • 377

              #21
              Originally posted by noid
              Anything less then $2500/per head would be extremely popular. Most clean swaps cost that or more, and there are ALOT of people who do 24v swaps.

              100hp/liter is better then an s52 swap. Add dbilas itb and it would be screaming.
              While I agree that it could be a potent combo, I doubt the price would be anywhere near that for a 24V head. In order to cover the costs of a bare casting, you probably looking at ~$1000/per. Then you add the machining of everything on the head, and new valve covers, it's probably another $1000. Then you need two cams, 24 valves, valve guides, two cam sprockets, and all seals... The total cost for a 'bolt on' application would get up there pretty quick. I would be surprised if it could be done for less than a S54 swap honestly.

              The alum block would be a little bit more reasonable, though still quite tricky. The hardest part here would be making sure to retain the structural integrity and prevent self-destruction due to harmonics (see the M54 oil pump issues).

              That's not to say it isn't something I want to dig a bit deeper into, but it wouldn't be based on mass production or trying to turn a profit. More like a personal project. I've been in the foundry industry my whole life, so it's the kind of thing that I know I would enjoy.
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              • 325ix
                R3V OG
                • Aug 2009
                • 7783

                #22
                I think one of the biggest expenses there is actually redesigning the head to be a 24v head. RD isn't going to give up the drawings for theirs.

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                • Chriskbmx
                  E30 Modder
                  • Apr 2012
                  • 972

                  #23
                  i would pay up to 5000 for such a work of art. a 3.2 liter m20 with itbs and a 24valve head would be automotive perfection.

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                  • noid
                    E30 Mastermind
                    • Feb 2008
                    • 1529

                    #24
                    Originally posted by tinkwithanr
                    While I agree that it could be a potent combo, I doubt the price would be anywhere near that for a 24V head. In order to cover the costs of a bare casting, you probably looking at ~$1000/per. Then you add the machining of everything on the head, and new valve covers, it's probably another $1000. Then you need two cams, 24 valves, valve guides, two cam sprockets, and all seals... The total cost for a 'bolt on' application would get up there pretty quick. I would be surprised if it could be done for less than a S54 swap honestly.

                    The alum block would be a little bit more reasonable, though still quite tricky. The hardest part here would be making sure to retain the structural integrity and prevent self-destruction due to harmonics (see the M54 oil pump issues).

                    That's not to say it isn't something I want to dig a bit deeper into, but it wouldn't be based on mass production or trying to turn a profit. More like a personal project. I've been in the foundry industry my whole life, so it's the kind of thing that I know I would enjoy.
                    I am sure we could get enough people to commit to buy to allow for the economies of scale of creating casts, blue prints, contacts, etc.
                    Your resource to do-it-yourself and interesting bmw and e30 stuff: www.rtsauto.com

                    Your resource to tools and tips: www.rtstools.com

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                    • brent5631
                      E30 Addict
                      • Jun 2012
                      • 421

                      #25
                      Any interest in adjustable shifters? Think I have a decent idea for one.
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                      • DrJosh
                        R3VLimited
                        • May 2009
                        • 2011

                        #26
                        Originally posted by Chriskbmx
                        i would pay up to 5000 for such a work of art. a 3.2 liter m20 with itbs and a 24valve head would be automotive perfection.
                        I concur. Would be simply perfect.
                        Originally posted by Sonny
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                        • 325ix
                          R3V OG
                          • Aug 2009
                          • 7783

                          #27
                          Originally posted by brent5631
                          Any interest in adjustable shifters? Think I have a decent idea for one.
                          As in how?

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                          • brent5631
                            E30 Addict
                            • Jun 2012
                            • 421

                            #28
                            Adjustable throw. So you can move the shaft up and down relative to the fulcrum. I'll make one up if I have some time.
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                            • YosemiteSam
                              E30 Fanatic
                              • Apr 2011
                              • 1303

                              #29
                              ^ That would be cool. I would most likely buy one if they existed and were a reasonable price. It would be extra crazy if you made it something that you could adjust at a stoplight.
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                              • brent5631
                                E30 Addict
                                • Jun 2012
                                • 421

                                #30
                                Thinking more like a couple set screws. It will require a different carrier bearing though
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